I thought that it was mostly Ayn Rand / Austrian economists who used those terms so it’s odd to hear Adam Curtis make that an explicit part of his analysis.
I thought that it was mostly Ayn Rand / Austrian economists who used those terms so it’s odd to hear Adam Curtis make that an explicit part of his analysis.
As long as you live in a society :jokah: you have to enter into relations with other human beiings. Communism and Capitalism are just two different ways of organizing those relations. In capitalism, the material relations between people and their labor's produce is not direct, but appear as social relations among those products. Those objects then dominate the social lives of people. Under communism, the relations between people are direct and controlled by themselves.
So "collectivism vs individualism" is a false argument. The only way to be truly individualistic is by living in a forest all alone. As long as you interact with other people, the question is no longer about that dichotomy, but how those relations are organized is the real question.
But good luck making your average lib understand this.
Humans have collectivism so deeply ingrained into our being that even this isnt likely to be true for long, as humans have and will domesticate or forge symbiotic relations with the animals around them. Mutual aid is a factor in every being's evolution :kropotkin-shining: