• AlexisOhanian [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Most people are not minority native groups living on traditional lands. I hope that's understandable that when I reference sport fishing by the guy in the video I'm not talking about an Inuit tribe.

    • Chutt_Buggins [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Well good for that guy and for you missing the point of my post, just riffing on the BBQ classic.

      You also don't say anything about who you are directing the comment to when talking to me, I don't know anything about the clip other than the quote he said in it, so it reads like a direct response to me, because that's all you're framing it as.

      You need to be better at providing context and ramping up discussion in a personable way, rather than sounding so insufferable so quickly.

      Also, inuit don't have tribes my dude.

      I think i recall you from the old sub, for exactly this same reason.

      "Most people are not minority native groups living on traditional lands. I hope that’s understandable ... " lol you're such a dweeb, thanks for giving the impolite dumdum explanation to an indigenous person you dragged into your struggle session for no reason.

      • AlexisOhanian [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The context, hopefully, is at the top of your webpage given the thread we are in.

        It was not meant as an attack on you are your culture, as I can't possibly know you or those things.

        I did not use this name on the old sub, you may just be arguing unnecessarily with multiple people.

        • Chutt_Buggins [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I did not use this name on the old sub, you may just be arguing unnecessarily with multiple people.

          I didn't say I remember your name, I am saying I think I recall your stilted 'well ackshually statistically most people aren't subsistence hunters, sweaty' discussion style where I am used as a jump-off for first world veganism and shaming in a topic that was never really about the extremes suddenly being argued against.

          The context for this thread is some guy out ice fishing. I didn't know he was sport fishing on the ice. The context for my post is me just talking about fishing in general, then you jumping off on a thing I was not directly referencing.

          If you made your own comment it makes sense, otherwise, if you frame your response as one directed at me without clarification, it is no surprise I feel like it's directed at me.

          • AlexisOhanian [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            To be clear, I did not use you or your culture as a jump-off point for first world veganism. I could not know your culture, you just said "I just wanna fish!"

            If anything is sweaty, it's making an issue out of an identity or cultural attack where there was none.

            I think the "most people aren't in a survival situation where they need to hunt" is a very common argument against hunting, it's the one I see brought up most often, so you probably just run into a lot because you actually are in a survival situation.

            Next time I'll just comment it separately, had no intent to attack you as an individual.

            • Chutt_Buggins [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              If anything is sweaty, it’s making an issue out of an identity or cultural attack where there was none.

              I am not making this about identity or 'cultural attack', I was just filling in context as a response to your poorly framed jump-off in direct response to what I said. I am just calling you an unconvincing dweeb poster, not some kind of racist.

              And yes, next time you should just comment by yourself, or provide more context if you care to have more people engage in whatever line of discussion you wanna start and it differs from the person posting memes in response to a short clip that isnt expressly discussing what you want to talk about..

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I really don't think even random white people throwing a pole in the water holds a candle to businesses blasting the fuck out of fish stocks.

      • AlexisOhanian [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        How did you even get that out of this? That's like someone complaining about domestic child abuse and replying, "ah but I really don't that compares to child slavery in India."

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          It's really not like that at all. The cruelty of the sport really doesn't go away if it's helping marginalized groups, and I think if the cruelty was really the prime motivator here, there would be some kind of an acknowledgement that it's good not to fuck with natives right now, but that ultimately you'd like, force veganism on them or whatever, once the conditions become non-abusive. But just flatly supporting native fisheries means the resource depletion rate seems like it's part of the equation there.

          Looks like you do mention that somewhere down in these threads, so cool. But that's the context there.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      Most people are not minority native groups living on traditional lands.

      Most people don't fish.