The official news outlet of the Communist Party of China's Xinjiang region said unidentified companies from the area have filed a domestic civil lawsuit seeking unspecified compensation from a U.S.-based human rights researcher whose reports alleged forced labour is used...
Yes. It’s the primary means by which it got people to BTFO Taiwan and Tibet. It’s a reasonably effective strategy, as it boils down to acknowledging their sovereignty.
I meant with the west. But okay. I'm just not aware of any examples of Chinese courts having reach or for that matter with China allowing international rulings much reach as much as insisting aggrieved parties go through the Chinese court system from the start. China also doesn't extradite AFAIK. Not citizens.
All this is rhetorical and mostly only good for squelching Maoist attitudes at home. Germans (and Europeans generally and Americans) are more than happy to do business with their Chinese counterparts, thanks to the low labor costs and economies of scale China’s state system provides. Nobody wants to give that up.
Maoists as in MLMs are largely against China. MZT types are pro-China but most MLM's I know of seethe about ppw and China doing trade with countries that have been at war with Maoist insurgencies (which are not Marxist at this point in my mind) for decades. But that's something else.
Well they don't want to give up trade with China but they're absolutely not going to cede the high ground on human rights which is what they think this is. And they don't have to, China is very patient and has been incredibly tolerant of these aggressions against it, largely fighting back with words not actions outside of against sanctions with real bite. China's strategy remains weathering this whole thing and continuing to grow and trade until it surpasses the west technologically, establishes global trading partnerships and makes itself truly indispensable by virtue of the number of countries it has good relations with and being ahead of the west in technology and can begin the lower stages of socialist construction in 2035.
At the same time, Westerners don’t want China to become a black-market shield behind which international crooks can do crimes in the West without consequence. They want international law to extend to China for the same reason they want it enforced in Brazil or Ireland. This sets up the need for reciprocity.
International law is a lie. It's a code-word for whatever suits the American/NATO/Five-eyes/Western bourgeoisie/Western Imperialists. It always has been. It means rules for thee, no rules for me. Yes some international institutions have dinged the US in favor of China but largely the rules were written in such a way as to favor the west. The institutions themselves are often staffed with western-biased sycophants. Yeah they'll rule the US has to import Brazilian beef sure, yeah they'll toss China a bone. But if we're talking outside the trade arena, in the area of criminal law, it's all bullshit. The US has been trampling Nuremberg standards for half a century without consequence. The US regularly uses the long arm of the law to punish people and countries who cannot hope to fight back, it regularly bullies other countries into extraditing those they want extradited and when that fails they set up ploys in the US or a friendly nation (job offers, etc) and then straight up kidnap the person, either legally through an interpol notice or similar (see Huawei's founder's daughter in Canada) or illegally using a CIA jet as they once did in Italy with a "terror" suspect. The US does not want reciprocity. The west does not want reciprocity. These racist anglo crackers see their liberal system as the best thing that there ever is or will be and see China's system as repressive and totalitarian. They would give reciprocity only on the condition China changes it's judiciary to be very western, the kind of place that doesn't execute billionaires. No. They don't want reciprocity. China is not in their anglo white cracker lib club. They want domination, they want to be able to force China to give over people they want without giving back anyone who hasn't committed a crime according to the standards of the west anyways. Let's not even get started on the number of people who've done financial crimes in China who fled with their money to the US and are now living here as citizens or legal extended residents, many of whom the US openly calls victims of persecution because these corrupt capitalist assholes of course made statements against the CPC.
You can. Although there’s a question of whether those cases will be taken up or dismissed.
Pedantic point. You can file just about anything, I mean stuff that had better than a reasonable chance not to get tossed out before the trial phase at the first hearing.
I have faith in the ability of Chinese litigators to navigate the international legal system.
I also have faith in Chinese litigators but I don't have faith in the international legal system in holding any western, white, capitalist, liberal, developed nation accountable to a non-western, non-white, non-capitalist, non-liberal, developing nation.
This led to the pressing of sanctions on various nations accused of harboring Bin Laden and was eventually used in the international call to invade Afghanistan after 9/11.
Again you're comparing the actions of the world hegemon and super-power, one with a coterie of sycophants, collaborators and subjugated neo-colonized nations under its thumb with other things. If you take the US at its word. If you take the racist anglo/global north developed nations at their word regarding international law being something they deeply care about (cries in war crimes victims) then you don't have a good frame for it.
I meant with the west. But okay. I'm just not aware of any examples of Chinese courts having reach or for that matter with China allowing international rulings much reach as much as insisting aggrieved parties go through the Chinese court system from the start. China also doesn't extradite AFAIK. Not citizens.
Maoists as in MLMs are largely against China. MZT types are pro-China but most MLM's I know of seethe about ppw and China doing trade with countries that have been at war with Maoist insurgencies (which are not Marxist at this point in my mind) for decades. But that's something else.
Well they don't want to give up trade with China but they're absolutely not going to cede the high ground on human rights which is what they think this is. And they don't have to, China is very patient and has been incredibly tolerant of these aggressions against it, largely fighting back with words not actions outside of against sanctions with real bite. China's strategy remains weathering this whole thing and continuing to grow and trade until it surpasses the west technologically, establishes global trading partnerships and makes itself truly indispensable by virtue of the number of countries it has good relations with and being ahead of the west in technology and can begin the lower stages of socialist construction in 2035.
International law is a lie. It's a code-word for whatever suits the American/NATO/Five-eyes/Western bourgeoisie/Western Imperialists. It always has been. It means rules for thee, no rules for me. Yes some international institutions have dinged the US in favor of China but largely the rules were written in such a way as to favor the west. The institutions themselves are often staffed with western-biased sycophants. Yeah they'll rule the US has to import Brazilian beef sure, yeah they'll toss China a bone. But if we're talking outside the trade arena, in the area of criminal law, it's all bullshit. The US has been trampling Nuremberg standards for half a century without consequence. The US regularly uses the long arm of the law to punish people and countries who cannot hope to fight back, it regularly bullies other countries into extraditing those they want extradited and when that fails they set up ploys in the US or a friendly nation (job offers, etc) and then straight up kidnap the person, either legally through an interpol notice or similar (see Huawei's founder's daughter in Canada) or illegally using a CIA jet as they once did in Italy with a "terror" suspect. The US does not want reciprocity. The west does not want reciprocity. These racist anglo crackers see their liberal system as the best thing that there ever is or will be and see China's system as repressive and totalitarian. They would give reciprocity only on the condition China changes it's judiciary to be very western, the kind of place that doesn't execute billionaires. No. They don't want reciprocity. China is not in their anglo white cracker lib club. They want domination, they want to be able to force China to give over people they want without giving back anyone who hasn't committed a crime according to the standards of the west anyways. Let's not even get started on the number of people who've done financial crimes in China who fled with their money to the US and are now living here as citizens or legal extended residents, many of whom the US openly calls victims of persecution because these corrupt capitalist assholes of course made statements against the CPC.
Pedantic point. You can file just about anything, I mean stuff that had better than a reasonable chance not to get tossed out before the trial phase at the first hearing.
I also have faith in Chinese litigators but I don't have faith in the international legal system in holding any western, white, capitalist, liberal, developed nation accountable to a non-western, non-white, non-capitalist, non-liberal, developing nation.
Again you're comparing the actions of the world hegemon and super-power, one with a coterie of sycophants, collaborators and subjugated neo-colonized nations under its thumb with other things. If you take the US at its word. If you take the racist anglo/global north developed nations at their word regarding international law being something they deeply care about (cries in war crimes victims) then you don't have a good frame for it.