Earlier today a vegan made a post with a white supremacist dog whistle by satirizing a person who's people "have been eating dog for thousands of years". Another Indigenous person and I did our best to call out the white supremacist nature of the discussion, so the poster later edited the title to specifically reference European people, which may have been well intentioned but only served to gaslight us by making it look like we were over-reacting and looking to be offended.

I came here for the leftism, and stayed for the Trans Rights. I'm a 2-spirit, native leftist. I have myriad reasons why I may or may not choose or even have the choice of veganism and any moralizing or condescension that comes from white vegans is an extension of over 500 years of an imposition of an alien value system which is profoundly disconnected from this land and the plants and animals which are our blood relations.

  • Prinz1989 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    " The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win."

    Marx and Engels ask the proletarians for personal risk here, but not personal sacrifice. Class conciousness means understanding that your own interests can be best advanced by working together as a class. Communism aims for the best fullfillment of needs not a katharsis by denying yourself worldly pleasures.

    • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      sacrificing self doesn't mean denying yourself wordly pleasures, it means sacrificing selfishness, and sacrificing the idea that you are greater than your neighbor, and in relation to communism understanding that by wanting the best for them, communally you are both elevated because they also will want the best for you.

      it's definitely about putting community above individual needs, for the betterment of everyone.