Earlier today a vegan made a post with a white supremacist dog whistle by satirizing a person who's people "have been eating dog for thousands of years". Another Indigenous person and I did our best to call out the white supremacist nature of the discussion, so the poster later edited the title to specifically reference European people, which may have been well intentioned but only served to gaslight us by making it look like we were over-reacting and looking to be offended.

I came here for the leftism, and stayed for the Trans Rights. I'm a 2-spirit, native leftist. I have myriad reasons why I may or may not choose or even have the choice of veganism and any moralizing or condescension that comes from white vegans is an extension of over 500 years of an imposition of an alien value system which is profoundly disconnected from this land and the plants and animals which are our blood relations.

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    4 years ago

    sorry, we're all so glib because we see the same reasons again and again so they basically becomes memes for us. Everyone has different reasons, but I'm personally an environmentalist vegan so I mostly bark up your tree because meat is very carbon/land inefficient per calorie and it's just not a sustainable way to feed everyone in the future. also I personally think animals products are gross and the conditions of their "harvesting" are very cruel. I can't necessarily convince you of the second point but the first point is a fact. The history of American land use and imperialism has made meat (beef especially) a massive part of our diet far beyond pre-industrial amounts. China recently just committed to reducing national meat consumption by 50%, while the US still subsidizes the destruction of the Amazon Rainforest for ranch land. If you are willing to divest from other polluting substances you really should for meat as well.