I’ve seen enough from the chapos to make me think all of them aside from amber are not class reductionists (aside from the self hating weirdo shit amber says) and none of them are racists (especially Matt). Why do they want to be associated with assholes like Sean McCarthy? I’ve been a leftist and an anti fascist for like ten years now, the left is supposed to beat the shit out of these dorks, not quasi cater to them like this Sean dude and Others on that side of Twitter.

Sucks to see Will and the others associate with that piece of shit.

Just because they hate neoliberals doesn’t mean fascist neckbeards are our friends. They’d gladly me have my Jewish ass gassed in heart beat

  • Sunn_Owns [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I’m not saying universal policies are always bad, I’m simply saying things like Black Lives Matter and Antifascism are important parts of the left that should never be disregarded.

    So you think universal policies are sometimes bad? I'm super confused as to what your ideology is. The entire leftist project is anti-capitalist in nature, capitalism requires misery at the bottom. The system is designed to immiserate minorities. No one is saying BLM is useless or unnecessary. The multi-racial makeup of BLM is one of the few things giving me hope for a better future.

    Different oppressed groups have different needs that need to be addressed and stood up for.

    I don't think any leftist disagrees with this, the only difference of opinion is tactical. Do we achieve this via means tested programs, or universal programs? Because means tested programs don't have a long shelf life. Look at the groups that benefit the most from universal programs - it is always poorest, which is usually always minority groups.

    Overall I'm just confused as to your thinking.

    • Arkhamasylumresident [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Not really wanting to entertain this discussion anymore tbh. My thinking is that class is absolutely important and a pillar leftism, but so are things like anti-fascism and other forms of resistance against bigotry and hatred. The people who were in Portland and counter protesting in Charlottesville are as leftist as you can get IMO. Putting their bodies on the line against deranged genocidalc?maniacs to show resistance to mortifying and ugly ideas.