Cmon, don't fuck this one up

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Well that sure was an episode. Seems to me the GDR didn't really have a good choice. Don't build the wall, brain drain happens and your country collapses. Build the wall, you spend a massive amount of resources maintaining it and your country collapses anyway. Really the lesson here is that the Soviets should never have given the other allies their own parts of Berlin.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The biggest problem with this episode by far is how they don't emphasize at all just how not denazified West Germany was. Weird stuff about being upset at rehabilitated nazis in the East but not the people directly in control in the West. Pretty cringe.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Because if they mentioned that, it would provide an avenue for people to question their narrative that the stasi existed solely for oppression of workers instead of as a very effective denazification program.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        1 year ago

        Isn't there some easy statistic that there literally was more ("former") members of the nazi party in west german government positions in the decades after the war than active nazi party members in the state during the actual time of nazi germany?

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        They mention it off-handedly at one point, but they're certainly not given equal time.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      east germany collapsed because west germany hired neo nazi gangs to cause trouble and beat up pro GDR supporters astroturfing a movement when the majority actually wanted to remain in east germany. Also Gorbachev refused to back them if they cracked down on the aforementioned nazis

      it was very like Euromaiden but far more tragic

      some things like the reinstatement of the nazi laws, and the destruction of the palace of the republic were just plain vandalism and wanton destruction of something beautiful just because it made the west look ugly in comparison

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        east germany collapsed because west germany hired neo nazi gangs to cause trouble and beat up pro GDR supporters astroturfing a movement when the majority actually wanted to remain in east germany.

        Do you have a good source on this?

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          no because I learned this in a conversation with someone who knows a lot about east germany. We had a very good conversation and I learned lots of things but I can't really prove any of them