Spent last night arguing with my liberal friends about Dems failing to pass min wage. Argued from the center left. Said Dem leadership needs to get its shit together and start getting the party in line. Otherwise theyre getting bodied in 2022 and never getting back in. They flipped out on me. Saying I was advocating for them to be just like Trump and the republicans.

Ive genuinely given up on them. I just dont get it. I dont know what to do. We're all queer and disabled. One of them constantly goes to protests and participates in her community. This wasn't even one of my hard left points. Like how the Dems are all psychos. Or the entire system is rigged. It was a genuine good faith argument about how the Dems need to change or we're gonna die. Im at a loss. How can you fix this?

  • TossedAccount [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Most people don’t even know what they think, they never actually examine their own ideology.

    Fun fact, by the time I had come to fully understand the material implications of my old neoliberal beliefs, I ended up drawing revolutionary conclusions and becoming a Marxist within a year. Bernie and Trump (not to mention experiencing gentrification and talking to working-class people) had a bit to do with that, but when you successfully compel a working-class liberal to look at the foundation of their beliefs, to make them recognize what compromises they're making, that's laying the groundwork for a later epiphany.

    Effective Marxists can plant seeds in people's heads, including those of currently ideologically-committed people who wouldn't even conceive of drawing similar conclusions or taking revolutionary politics seriously.