Spent last night arguing with my liberal friends about Dems failing to pass min wage. Argued from the center left. Said Dem leadership needs to get its shit together and start getting the party in line. Otherwise theyre getting bodied in 2022 and never getting back in. They flipped out on me. Saying I was advocating for them to be just like Trump and the republicans.

Ive genuinely given up on them. I just dont get it. I dont know what to do. We're all queer and disabled. One of them constantly goes to protests and participates in her community. This wasn't even one of my hard left points. Like how the Dems are all psychos. Or the entire system is rigged. It was a genuine good faith argument about how the Dems need to change or we're gonna die. Im at a loss. How can you fix this?

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I've found the opposite with climate change. It is too big for a lot of people to comprehend and the measures a sufficient climate policy would need to take are too radical for them to imagine. All their lives they have been told that the scope of politics is to make small adjustments to the status quo and now you're telling them that everything will change. This makes them easy targets of climate deniers who offer them an easy excuse to ignore climate change either by claiming it is all a hoax or the far more incidious form of denialism where totally insufficient measures like a mild emissions tax and subsidies for electric cars are presented as a real solution to the crisis.

    • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      I dont think youre really explaining how much climate change is really going to fuck things then. You should read up on the Permian Extinction and really try to burn the image of the world portrayed as that into your speaking. It is a hard (and I hate this term) black pill that has to be swallowed when done this way. Like its not just that 50% of species or however many fungible terms humans have created to categorize the world die, its 99% of all individual life will perish if global warming continues, and the only actionable moment for doing anything to considerably stop that was 10 years ago, we have to be violent, now, or never.