I'm a bug eater just cuz they have it coming

    • Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org
      ·
      8 months ago

      You have pretty wild ideas what a centrist is, I'll go through the panels individually:

      1. i guess this one is accurate, in my eyes the issue is not that nazis say what they think, but rather that they think what they think. If anything it is better if you know someone to be a nazi, rather then them hiding among the population. The way to combat extremism shouldn't be to prohibit extremist thoughts, but a good system of education that highlights the atrocities commited by extremist governments in the past (and present).
      2. Centrism does NOT mean favoring blind compromises between any two sides. In this panel you have extremists on the left and centrists on the right. Of course I would side with the people on the right, human rights apply to all humans.
      3. Advocating for wars is an inherently extremist thing, its the culmination of refusing to compromise , and to deny other humans the right to live. Which doesn't mean I am a pacifist. It can't be right to just surrender to any aggressor.
      4. The idea that centrsist are apolitical is just absurd. I hold many opinions, even on topics that don't immediately affect me. However, as a centrist I advocate for democracy. Its not perfect, humans are ultimately slightly smarter chimpanzees in my eyes. But as JFK once said: "Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect, be we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in."
      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        Because political norms and trends change constantly, being a "centrist" at any given period of history is a lot of work for an otherwise useless position of "find the middle at that moment and stand there to feel superior to people trying to improve society somewhat."

        Before and even during MLK's marches, "centrists" like you scolded him for being too extreme and only appropriated what he said after he was dead for your own ends.

        https://letterfromjail.com/

        https://www.bustle.com/p/this-martin-luther-king-jr-quote-on-white-moderates-is-seriously-striking-a-chord-7913411

        It must be tiring to try to stand in a comfortably uncommitted place "in the middle" while always trying to have the high ground to feel superior to those fools that actually try to stand for something other than their own self-superiority.

        • Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org
          ·
          8 months ago

          Hm, I don't think we mean the same thing when we talk about centrism. I don't constantly look to the political left and right, find the middle and make that my opinion, honestly I doubt anyone does that. Instead, my general stance could probably more fittingly be summed up like this: As humans we always feel that our opinion is right and more valid than that of anyone disagreeing. I accept that my opinions might be wrong, regardless of how I feel about them. And I believe that the more people disagree with me, the more likely I am to be wrong. It follows that forcing my will on everyone else is not the right way and that instead it would be best to find the solution that the most people can agree on.

          Of course, humans are ultimatley only slightly smarter chimpanzees, so this does NOT guarentee we actually agree on the best solution, but its our best bet. What would be ideal would be some higher, benevolent intelligence ruling over us, just like a parent would. But that isn't going to be Hitler, Stalin or any other human that decides that they know better than anyone else what society needs.

          Also, I don't really get your point about feeling superior. I never said that my opinion is any more valid than anyone elses, quite the contrary. If anything, thats more the vibe I'm getting from your response.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            I wrote a longer reply, but I decided this summed up everything I want to say to you more succinctly.

            https://existentialcomics.com/comic/125

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
                ·
                8 months ago

                Again, centrism isn't the same as being apolitical

                It's about congratulating yourself for feeling above the fray.

                but I'm starting to doubt you'll ever understand that

                Claims like that underline exactly what I just said. You have nothing of value to contribute to any political discussion or argument but your own belief in your own superiority.

                I guess its kinda my fault for thinking people on here'd be capable of more than memes and insults.

                If you masturbated any harder in that reply you'd have passed out from dehydration before finishing it.

                • Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  At least I still take part in political discurse. I tried explaining/defending my stance. You aren't intersted in adressing any points I make, you just insult me as a person instead. And somehow I am the one with a superiority complex.

                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    At least I still take part in political discurse.

                    You take part by rolling out the red carpet for fascists, each and every time.

                    You aren't intersted in adressing any points I make

                    Yes. I am not interested in congratulating your false sense of superiority.

                    I am the one with a superiority complex.

                    You are, and you disgust me.