This seems like an issue solved by democratic control of production. If the workers at the People's Boeing factory figured that the graduate of the Uncle School of Engineering designed the best plane around, it's probably a good plane.
Also having an degree doesn't stop a person from being a crank. There are a lot of crank engineers and scientists running around.
Assuming we still have a complex society, we'll have a society still in need of engineers and lots of other professions. Without some sort of formalized or semi-formalized structure your way of gaining knowledge or seeking apprenticeship will largely be restricted to your immediate social circle, which might mean keeping certain domains of knowledge closed off to certain social groups. Schools my currently keep the power structures in tact, but getting rid of schools entirely will just replicate the same power structures within a few generations.
Isn't that the basic question of anarchism? If the workers are not bound by formal structure and have no boss that forces them to do their work, what stops the workers from telling some marginalized group to fuck off when those marginalized people need some sort of service?
So shouldn't the people that know shit and can teach maybe do so on one place so people don't have to go from house to house learning shit? Centralized education is cool and good.
Wouldn't it be easier to just make schools better than to start from ground level? I'd also argue that for quite a bit anti capitalism will need to be taught, it takes a while to remove the material incentives, especially when the world is ruled by capitalists.
Voice or video only seems like a really inefficient way to actually do anything. Have you never had to pick out an individual piece of information ever? Would you prefer skimming or skipping back and forth through audio?
Me, personally, I prefer text, but I know a share of people who fave no problems with searching videos and audio. I guess it's something you can get used to. Also current tech is pretty close to basically be able to ctrl-f a video lecture.
I just can't imagine science or engineering getting done in an illiterate world. You'd need to have equations dictated to you repeatedly as you try to figure out a way to proceed.
I can imagine it. Not every field makes heavy use of equations and there are blind people who use screen readers and are very competent software engineers.
Either way those are specialized skills. Theoretical physicists or whatever can learn reading and writing if they want to.
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I mean, people were teaching each other for millions of years before schools were a thing.
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This seems like an issue solved by democratic control of production. If the workers at the People's Boeing factory figured that the graduate of the Uncle School of Engineering designed the best plane around, it's probably a good plane.
Also having an degree doesn't stop a person from being a crank. There are a lot of crank engineers and scientists running around.
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Assuming we still have a complex society, we'll have a society still in need of engineers and lots of other professions. Without some sort of formalized or semi-formalized structure your way of gaining knowledge or seeking apprenticeship will largely be restricted to your immediate social circle, which might mean keeping certain domains of knowledge closed off to certain social groups. Schools my currently keep the power structures in tact, but getting rid of schools entirely will just replicate the same power structures within a few generations.
Isn't that the basic question of anarchism? If the workers are not bound by formal structure and have no boss that forces them to do their work, what stops the workers from telling some marginalized group to fuck off when those marginalized people need some sort of service?
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"you can win a war without centralized planning" vibes
Some people teach themselves to do things.
EDIT: I taught myself to read the clouds.
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schools are just a place to do education mate
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Indeed. I like the Cheka, but I won't pretend that they're not cops.
So shouldn't the people that know shit and can teach maybe do so on one place so people don't have to go from house to house learning shit? Centralized education is cool and good.
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Wouldn't it be easier to just make schools better than to start from ground level? I'd also argue that for quite a bit anti capitalism will need to be taught, it takes a while to remove the material incentives, especially when the world is ruled by capitalists.
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Okay, you're talking full list capitalist and scarcity. That's like Star Trek times. I'm thinking here and now
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That would be neat but you can't just flick the "fully automated post scarcity gay communism" switch. There's many many many steps in between
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Are we talking about Revolutionary Catalonia here? Just press the microphone button and ask the computer, it'll talk back.
Reading is as obsolete of a skill as clipping flint knifes with a rock.
Sorry you are communicating in an obselete form please use a voice message
Such is the life under capitalism...
Isn't the cool new social network, Clubhouse or something, voice only? The future is now, baby!
Voice or video only seems like a really inefficient way to actually do anything. Have you never had to pick out an individual piece of information ever? Would you prefer skimming or skipping back and forth through audio?
Me, personally, I prefer text, but I know a share of people who fave no problems with searching videos and audio. I guess it's something you can get used to. Also current tech is pretty close to basically be able to ctrl-f a video lecture.
I just can't imagine science or engineering getting done in an illiterate world. You'd need to have equations dictated to you repeatedly as you try to figure out a way to proceed.
I can imagine it. Not every field makes heavy use of equations and there are blind people who use screen readers and are very competent software engineers.
Either way those are specialized skills. Theoretical physicists or whatever can learn reading and writing if they want to.
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I dunno. I don't see anything wrong with people not being forced to learn to read to participate in the society. We already have the technology.
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