Labor unions today: "we'll help you organize and take the legal steps to get fair treatment."

Labor unions in 1912: "take this rifle. If your boss doesn't comply with our demands, shoot him and blow up his mansion."

One of these two approaches gets immediate results.

  • Woly [any]
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    4 years ago

    Imagine how fucking awesome a movie about the battle of Blair Mountain would be. Union busting, armed revolt, assassination, people like Mother Jones and Bill Blizzard.

    Apparently a local sheriff and some miners got into a gunfight with a bunch Pinkertons who had been illegally evicting people, and then when the sheriff showed up for his court date the pinkerton's just lit him up before the trial started. And shit only got crazier from there.

      • Nationalgoatism [any]
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        4 years ago

        My great grandfather actually was a coal mine who took up arms around the time of the ludlow massacre, and fought the Colorado national guard. It's kind of a wild family story and even more wild that the next two generations of his descendents were almost entirely composed of libs lol

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      unfortunately they're worse

      (cw: rape) https://okcfox.com/news/local/norman-councilperson-says-she-was-intended-target-after-neighbor-is-raped

    • FidelCastro [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      The cop "union" is not an actual union because cops are not actual workers. The pig "union" is just a group of fascists who haven't been mowed down yet.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        cops are not actual workers

        It's a thin line, as they're exposed to all the same neoliberal undercurrents as the rest of us. Cop unions are simply the organizations that survived from an era when public sector unionization was the norm. And they've been the most difficult to dissolve because they are so vital to the function of capitalism.

        Neoliberals would love nothing more than to abolish unions and turn policing into another Gig Economy job. Then the water gets even more muddy.

        • FidelCastro [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I hope the neoliberals successfully do that to the pigs. A weakened state apparatus is useful for us.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            4 years ago

            It's weaker for individual cops. I don't know if it's meaningfully weaker for the capitalists.

            To quote Jay Gould: "I Can Hire Half the Working Class To Fight the Other Half"

            Hardly a victory for Leftism if NextDoor starts farming out the job of state-sanctioned violence to insecure racist middle-class suburbanites.

  • raven [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I feel robbed not being taught the history of US workers movements in school. Instead we learned about ancient history and the civil war and WW2 exclusively.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    More and more people are saying it folks. Direct action is the best action. Any means necessary they say. Can you believe that?

    • FidelCastro [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      If everyone commits to propaganda of the deed, then it's just life.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    Labor unions in 1912

    Literally coasting off the massive military surplus and trained regiments created in the midst of American imperial expansion.

    One of these two approaches gets immediate results.

    One relies on a police and surveillance state that's a century behind the modern curve, as well as a population that hadn't been subject to a lifetime's worth of anti-violence propaganda and vilification against armed rebellion.