• Norm_Chumpsky [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    He’s not even saying “reserve judgement on this particular shooting” he’s saying that there’s no proof that the general uptick in anti-Asian violence has anything to do with white supremacy.

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      There's a point to be made that sinophobia and anti-asian racism is a broader and more mainstream ideology than explicit white supremacism is (with the obvious caveat that it's inherently linked to and derived from the American civic nationalist cult which is itself inextricably tied to white supremacist ideology, even if the way this manifests in a given person may favor one facet over another or even actively seek to hide some facets), but that's not the way to make that point.

      • PhaseFour [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        with the obvious caveat that it’s inherently linked to and derived from the American civic nationalist cult which is itself inextricably tied to white supremacist ideology, even if the way this manifests in a given person may favor one facet over another or even actively seek to hide some facets

        This seems like an over-intellectualizing the fact that the US is pushing war propaganda against China right now.

        Yes, it can be connected back to white supremacy. But calling the current Sinophobia & anti-Asian racism "white supremacist" provides cover for Sinophobes who no one would consider white supremacists e.g. Ilhan Omar & AOC.

        I agree with what you everything you said, though. Just wanted to include this criticism. It applies to everyone in this thread.

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Yes, it can be connected back to white supremacy. But calling the current Sinophobia & anti-Asian racism “white supremacist” provides cover for Sinophobes who no one would consider white supremacists e.g. Ilhan Omar & AOC.

          Yeah, that's basically my point, I just felt the need to acknowledge that yes, American nationalism is tied to white supremacist ideology even if someone touting it or an offshoot of it may profess anti-racist sentiment or even be in active conflict with the more overtly racist nationalists.