VCJ was always full of CTH users. When Reddit banned those subs we switched to posting on Hexbear because a lot us, particularly the regular posters were already active on CC.
What about the other animal corpse posts that were flooded in main? Did you whine about that too? Half my family is from India when people don’t kill cows. Almost a quarter of the world is from that kind of culture. Why is it okay to post badly seasoned burnt bovine corpses on main but not tasty doggos which many cultures eat?
It’s literally a litmus test for cognitive dissonance and comments like this proves it. Just because western culture says one is food and the other isn’t doesn’t make it okay. Think back on the history of the CTH subreddit, I was there from when it had a few thousand users. We literally used the same tactics to make disillusioned Bernie bros radicalise and had a great time doing it.
I thought the barkon and dogdiet posts were funny and elucidating for the reasons you mentioned. What I disliked were the troll posts like "a cow's life is worth infinitely more than any person's". They may have be ironic, but I don't find it funny because it's indistinguishable from unironic ecofascism, and doesn't fit with the culture of the site. So I think there was wrong on both sides. I will now cancel myself for this enlightened centrist take.
In America? There are dead cows there, sure. In India, good luck finding dead cows in supermarkets. In other parts of the world you’ll find plenty of yummy dead doggos in supermarkets.
No because I don’t recall any vegans asking for cw for posting dead cows. I remember plenty of corpse eaters asking for cw for clearly satirical posts of healthy and happy looking dogs because they implied eating them.
No, not exploiting animals isn’t tough, it’s very easy and I did it on a budget of £20 a week at first while working, going to uni and managing type 1 diabetes.
Literally just saw a post with dead animals and food made with animal abuse. No CW, no calls for CW. Honestly now if feels like when right wingers talk about snowflakes and cry about cancel culture. Why lie?
I wasn’t even looking for it, I just found it browsing Hexbear, I’m sure I can find plenty of similar posts: https://hexbear.net/post/94823
I’m done debating. Please do your own research, it’s natural to feel defensive about things you’re accustomed to your entire life. We all went through that. I used to be the same.
If you can’t handle the consequences of your actions then you’re welcome to leave, I’m good right here. You will and should be made fun of at the very least for directly contributing to the death and exploitation of thousands of animals each year.
People wonder why this website is so white, male and American when those with more knowledge of exploitation, discrimination and life experiences are called wreckers, mass downvoted and bullied out for not having the same views as the online ‘left’ from the most right wing country in the world.
This entire thing started because Americans love dogs enough to bring it up whenever China is mentioned but don’t care about dead cows being sold for a dollar. Veganism is tied to a lot of different forms of discrimination and injustices around the world. Your failure to understand that doesn’t make us wreckers.
I was ready to leave it but you’re words weren’t very comradely my lib.
Why is it okay to post badly seasoned burnt bovine corpses on main but not tasty doggos which many cultures eat?
If somebody actually cooks dog meat to eat and post it, i have no problem with it. The problem is the bad faith in which the posts are created, not the content itself.
I also repeatedly said that if meat pictures bothered people we should add NSFW tags to them.
We literally used the same tactics to make disillusioned Bernie bros radicalise
1-There's a fine balance between being dirtbag and being a dickhead to that person directly. Dirtbag works because you're attacking institutional Democrats, not the people who vote Dem.
2-For every disillusioned Bernie bro you turned, there could be 2 that are turned off because of this, and unfortunately there's no way to prove it.
Barkon tastes good tho
Thank you for reducing everything i could say to this
It’s a joke to point out cognitive dissonance. If you feel bad then maybe do some research, it’s the perfect time for self reflection and self discovery.
No vegans should be apologetic and walk around egg shells for being right. And vegans are right the same way socialists are right. It’s not my or any /c/vegan user’s personal responsibility to educate you, it’s yours. The thing is everyone here is already half way there. No one is denying that vegan diet isn’t better. That only makes it worse. Knowingly contributing to a larger institutional issue means that you’re not exempt from being made fun of.
Right or wrong, this attitude is literally what made and grew the original CTH sub when it had a few thousand users
There is literally no excuse not to be vegan for 99% of people on here.
This reminds me of a writing mentor (and myself tbh) who writes genuinely excellent novels but will never get published because he's an incredibly abrasive ass who refuses to temper himself and not tell his editor he's an r-slur who doesn't understand art, or repeatedly shit on his colleagues, etc.
He's right, but to act surprised that people don't want you around when you seem intent on making them feel bad (which has absolutely nothing to do with correctness; I believe vegans have moral highground) is disingenuous. I find the China-support annoying, to say the very least, but I temper my sectarianism because that's what's expected of me as part of this community.
And I will say I don't think "do your own research" works anymore in two years where people have given themselves mass psychosis via doing their own research.
If you feel bad then maybe do some research, it’s the perfect time for self reflection and self discovery.
It doesn't make me do any of those, it just makes me feel like you're a dickhead. The 9 months where i was a vegetarian before my doctor forced me off it, it started because my vegan friends were "Yeah it's not as easy as an omni diet, but it's doable, look at what we cook it's not that hard" and not calling me a bloodmouth or whatever.
No vegans should be apologetic and walk around egg shells for being right.
No one is saying that. Excluding a small number of users, most people's reaction was "Could you stop being massive dicks to people?"
you’re not exempt from being made fun of.
You know how when you're jokingly insulting each other between friends and it's all good, but somebody forgets to put a lid on it and it sometimes leads to a fight? So, yeah.
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I'm sure that's the reason and not the dog meat posts that flooded the main
VCJ was always full of CTH users. When Reddit banned those subs we switched to posting on Hexbear because a lot us, particularly the regular posters were already active on CC.
What about the other animal corpse posts that were flooded in main? Did you whine about that too? Half my family is from India when people don’t kill cows. Almost a quarter of the world is from that kind of culture. Why is it okay to post badly seasoned burnt bovine corpses on main but not tasty doggos which many cultures eat?
It’s literally a litmus test for cognitive dissonance and comments like this proves it. Just because western culture says one is food and the other isn’t doesn’t make it okay. Think back on the history of the CTH subreddit, I was there from when it had a few thousand users. We literally used the same tactics to make disillusioned Bernie bros radicalise and had a great time doing it.
Barkon tastes good tho
I thought the barkon and dogdiet posts were funny and elucidating for the reasons you mentioned. What I disliked were the troll posts like "a cow's life is worth infinitely more than any person's". They may have be ironic, but I don't find it funny because it's indistinguishable from unironic ecofascism, and doesn't fit with the culture of the site. So I think there was wrong on both sides. I will now cancel myself for this enlightened centrist take.
Off to vegetarian gulag animal liberation centrist
:gulag:
Okay, that's fair. :deeper-sadness:
Must be tough going to a super market
In America? There are dead cows there, sure. In India, good luck finding dead cows in supermarkets. In other parts of the world you’ll find plenty of yummy dead doggos in supermarkets.
No because I don’t recall any vegans asking for cw for posting dead cows. I remember plenty of corpse eaters asking for cw for clearly satirical posts of healthy and happy looking dogs because they implied eating them.
No, not exploiting animals isn’t tough, it’s very easy and I did it on a budget of £20 a week at first while working, going to uni and managing type 1 diabetes.
That’s pretty disingenuous since all photos of food containing meat must have a cw
Literally just saw a post with dead animals and food made with animal abuse. No CW, no calls for CW. Honestly now if feels like when right wingers talk about snowflakes and cry about cancel culture. Why lie?
I wasn’t even looking for it, I just found it browsing Hexbear, I’m sure I can find plenty of similar posts: https://hexbear.net/post/94823
I’m done debating. Please do your own research, it’s natural to feel defensive about things you’re accustomed to your entire life. We all went through that. I used to be the same.
Fuck off wrecker
If you can’t handle the consequences of your actions then you’re welcome to leave, I’m good right here. You will and should be made fun of at the very least for directly contributing to the death and exploitation of thousands of animals each year.
People wonder why this website is so white, male and American when those with more knowledge of exploitation, discrimination and life experiences are called wreckers, mass downvoted and bullied out for not having the same views as the online ‘left’ from the most right wing country in the world.
This entire thing started because Americans love dogs enough to bring it up whenever China is mentioned but don’t care about dead cows being sold for a dollar. Veganism is tied to a lot of different forms of discrimination and injustices around the world. Your failure to understand that doesn’t make us wreckers.
I was ready to leave it but you’re words weren’t very comradely my lib.
I’m glad your diet makes you feel superior to everyone else
If somebody actually cooks dog meat to eat and post it, i have no problem with it. The problem is the bad faith in which the posts are created, not the content itself.
I also repeatedly said that if meat pictures bothered people we should add NSFW tags to them.
1-There's a fine balance between being dirtbag and being a dickhead to that person directly. Dirtbag works because you're attacking institutional Democrats, not the people who vote Dem.
2-For every disillusioned Bernie bro you turned, there could be 2 that are turned off because of this, and unfortunately there's no way to prove it.
Thank you for reducing everything i could say to this
It’s a joke to point out cognitive dissonance. If you feel bad then maybe do some research, it’s the perfect time for self reflection and self discovery.
No vegans should be apologetic and walk around egg shells for being right. And vegans are right the same way socialists are right. It’s not my or any /c/vegan user’s personal responsibility to educate you, it’s yours. The thing is everyone here is already half way there. No one is denying that vegan diet isn’t better. That only makes it worse. Knowingly contributing to a larger institutional issue means that you’re not exempt from being made fun of.
Right or wrong, this attitude is literally what made and grew the original CTH sub when it had a few thousand users
There is literally no excuse not to be vegan for 99% of people on here.
This reminds me of a writing mentor (and myself tbh) who writes genuinely excellent novels but will never get published because he's an incredibly abrasive ass who refuses to temper himself and not tell his editor he's an r-slur who doesn't understand art, or repeatedly shit on his colleagues, etc.
He's right, but to act surprised that people don't want you around when you seem intent on making them feel bad (which has absolutely nothing to do with correctness; I believe vegans have moral highground) is disingenuous. I find the China-support annoying, to say the very least, but I temper my sectarianism because that's what's expected of me as part of this community.
And I will say I don't think "do your own research" works anymore in two years where people have given themselves mass psychosis via doing their own research.
It doesn't make me do any of those, it just makes me feel like you're a dickhead. The 9 months where i was a vegetarian before my doctor forced me off it, it started because my vegan friends were "Yeah it's not as easy as an omni diet, but it's doable, look at what we cook it's not that hard" and not calling me a bloodmouth or whatever.
No one is saying that. Excluding a small number of users, most people's reaction was "Could you stop being massive dicks to people?"
You know how when you're jokingly insulting each other between friends and it's all good, but somebody forgets to put a lid on it and it sometimes leads to a fight? So, yeah.
But vegans aren’t right