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  • Cromalin [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    obviously there are many movies with pointless sex scenes that should have been cut or changef, but also some movies would work significantly less well without them

    a lot of people have sex, and for many it's a big part of life and their relationships. anything that important irl should be represented in art

          • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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            8 months ago

            ???

            The entire movie is about sex and fear of the social repercussions of sex

            • ikilledtheradiostar [comrade/them, love/loves]
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              8 months ago

              Second for second there's more running away from an invisible monster than sex so yeah

              Its just a regular monster movie with one weird trick. Like smile or birdbox

              Also it's not about STDs bc that's not how STDs work.

              • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                8 months ago

                That invisible monster represents the negative repercussions of sex perceived from a teenager

                • ikilledtheradiostar [comrade/them, love/loves]
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                  8 months ago

                  No it does not. It could be hamfisted into being an std but you can't cure aids by setting up a zany swimming pool trap or fucking it away.

                  Its a dumb monster movie with sex sloppily laid on top. So sloppily that one could reasonably conclude it's pointlessly gratuitous.

                  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                    8 months ago

                    no that's really silly the monsters in a movie can at once be metaphors and also literal monsters within the narrative in dracula the vampire both represents a horror from the old world come into the new and a scary dude that eats people

                    it's called a story having themes

                    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                      8 months ago

                      Someone who doesn't recognize this has no business saying anything about horror art and what is good and what isn't

                    • RION [she/her]
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                      8 months ago

                      Guy looking at dracula: damn an empire teetering at the apex of its power is anxious about the horrors of colonialism being turned inward, and the hidden debauchery that undergirds a puritanical society!

                      The true point arcing above his head: damn eastern Europeans are weird

                    • ikilledtheradiostar [comrade/them, love/loves]
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                      8 months ago

                      Yeah it follows has one theme executed poorly. It has one metaphor also executed poorly. Its a facil movie and a typical monster movie shot in a somewhat art house style. I really think its the style that makes people see a depth that is just not present.

                      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                        8 months ago

                        no it doesn't only have one theme we're just only talking about one of the themes right now. Alcoholism and addiction are also themes of the movie for example

                        and your idea of the metaphor being executed poorly seems to be that the film also treats the in narrative real monster as a real monster as well as a metaphor

                      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                        8 months ago

                        Everything has to be didactic and literal or it doesn’t exist to STEM brains

                        • ikilledtheradiostar [comrade/them, love/loves]
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                          8 months ago

                          The movie was bad. It is bad art. There is good art but it follows ain't it. Not to mention it was produced in the pursuit of profit so it is also soulless as well as bad.

                          • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]
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                            8 months ago

                            Just because you didn't understand it doesn't mean that its bad. Just because it wasn't made for $20 by a bunch of film students doesn't make it soulless. You not liking it is fine but you're not the arbiter of taste

                            • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                              8 months ago

                              not only are they the arbiter of taste, they are the arbiter of meaning and the arbiter of content

                            • ikilledtheradiostar [comrade/them, love/loves]
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                              8 months ago

                              I understand it fine.

                              Let's say it is about the consequences of sex. What are those exactly. Pregnancy, loss of financial opportunity, loss of autonomy, STDs, a lasting responsiblty , all of these things could have been explored in fun and intrestimg ways but, what did we get? A by the numbers monster movie with a somewhat novel twist. Like

                              • GriffithDidNothingWrong [comrade/them]
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                                8 months ago

                                Another of the consequences of sex for a young woman is that peoples attitudes about you may change, even people close to you. Most notably embodied by her simp friend who still wants to have sex with her and is jealous of those that do, despite knowing it means his death, and who is ultimately disillusioned when they do because its meaningless and perfunctory for both of them.

                                The movie chose to convey this in the form of an unstoppable monster that posseses people because its a monster movie. Again, you don't have to like it. Not every movie appeals to every person but its not like we're talking about Halloween 3 here. A lot of people like that movie for a reason

                                • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                                  8 months ago

                                  I would also say the "it" that follows, the monster, is an embodiment of contradictory social pressures that follows women in the contemporary world. The pressure by men to have sex (and the rewards that come when you give in to that pressure) vs. the opposing social force condemning you for being a sl*t, saying you are just sleeping your way up catching up to you. This is represented by the chain of sex, it both damns and then saves you. The first person you fuck damns you (you lose your virginity) and the second person you fuck saves you, but at the expense of you damning them. They become the "sl-t" that society chases instead, the lowest rung in the totem pole.

                                  I think it's a quite poignant and thoughtful criticism and exploration and has a lot more nuance than the user above gives credit for.

                                • ikilledtheradiostar [comrade/them, love/loves]
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                                  8 months ago

                                  The movie chose to convey this in the form of an unstoppable monster that posseses people because its a monster movie.

                                  The movie conveys this as events in the movie. The monster is independent of this and poorly represents or stands in for anything deeper than antagonist. The movie is fine I don't dislike it but it is so overhyped.

                          • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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                            8 months ago

                            Do you try to ban content you don’t understand? That’s the real rub here from the puritanicals in this thread, they don’t just want some help parsing difficult themes they want them gone

      • Cromalin [she/her]
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        8 months ago

        man that's tough. fire walk with me for sure, but for sex scenes that aren't terrifying sexual assault scenes maybe portrait of a lady on fire? i can think of a few others, the handmaiden, moonlight, etc. in general, i think most sex scenes in otherwise good movies don't bring down the quality of the movie as long as it makes sense for the characters. people fuck! it happens! if done artfully it can enhance your understanding of the characters, and even if not handled perfectly as long as it makes sense it takes a decent amount to get too gratuitous for me

        that's not to say i'm cool with all horny bullshit in movies or tv, there's so much anime out there that needs to have tits shoved awkwardly on screen regularly. but when an anime reads like the creators know what sex is then it doesn't bug me that much. chainsaw man is horny but i don't mind it. chainsaw man is made better by how it handles its horniness imo. in general as long as sexuality is handled with care it's no worse than any other element that could show up in a film

        also a lot of people act like there are tons of movies with sex in them, and that just isn't the case. i mean, not anymore at least. they show up, but the vast majority of hollywood blockbusters are completely sexless

          • Cromalin [she/her]
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            8 months ago

            i mean yeah. i just don't think sex scenes are fundamentally that different from non-sex scenes, though clearly some people do

      • Abracadaniel [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        True Detective (season 1). Rust has one which is really impactful.

      • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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        8 months ago

        if a tv show counts, there's that one scene in the boys and why even watch any of it if they're gonna cut the shrinking guy doing that?