and if the answer is "by discussing a topic that makes me angry" then what is the distinction between discussion and wrecking anymore? We're in c/vegan, how could they have been wrecking this comm?
Do you actually have a link to that? I've read this entire thread and that's the first time someone's said that, so apologies if I'm not terminally online enough to have seen a previous buried post.
Here's the post. Even if you frame it as "they are saying it deserves to die after this 'reactionary' struggle session", it's still an admission toward wrecking the site as it is because they're mad how things have turned out, which I would think is grounds for banning from the site as it's an attitude that could only make this continue to get worse.
I'm trying to stay out of this struggle sesh now as I think it's run its course, but I thought I'd share the post that highlighted a lot of the discord talk that I think is rightfully concerning.
Isn't that some kind of backwards justification for the bans then?
They're talking like this because they're all being banned for discussing the leftist ideology they believe in on an explicitly leftist site. So to point to that frustration and go "see, they're frustrated, since they're wreckers" feels very wrong.
I'm reading through these and they seem like the expected comments from users who were just banned from the site for discussing veganism. Frustrated and discussing how badly the admins have handled it.
There's a major difference between frustrated users who have been banned for participating in a site they wanted to join and forge a community in, and people who joined to 'wreck' like accusing Beatnik of pedophilia or spamming John Kerry.
Wasn't this only considered wrecking to discuss veganism across the site like three days ago? You can't call it wrecking if there was no rule against it prior to that.
If they did it after, then ban them from those communities. Their histories don't show that though.
It would have been a lot clearer to give that as a reason in the mod log, because as it stands it looks like an immature admin just kicked someone they don't like.
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Ah, I thought they came over from VCJ, my mistake
Won't edit any comments implying they didn't and actually just came as wreckers though.
I mean, they are currently wrecking, so I don't think I was too far off base, lol
How are they currently wrecking?
and if the answer is "by discussing a topic that makes me angry" then what is the distinction between discussion and wrecking anymore? We're in c/vegan, how could they have been wrecking this comm?
Lotf on the VCJ discord: I am wrecking
You: but how are they wrecking though??? Source???
Do you actually have a link to that? I've read this entire thread and that's the first time someone's said that, so apologies if I'm not terminally online enough to have seen a previous buried post.
Here's the post. Even if you frame it as "they are saying it deserves to die after this 'reactionary' struggle session", it's still an admission toward wrecking the site as it is because they're mad how things have turned out, which I would think is grounds for banning from the site as it's an attitude that could only make this continue to get worse.
I'm trying to stay out of this struggle sesh now as I think it's run its course, but I thought I'd share the post that highlighted a lot of the discord talk that I think is rightfully concerning.
Isn't that some kind of backwards justification for the bans then?
They're talking like this because they're all being banned for discussing the leftist ideology they believe in on an explicitly leftist site. So to point to that frustration and go "see, they're frustrated, since they're wreckers" feels very wrong.
Linked in the first comment I made in this thread. It's from a series documenting what's been going on in the VCJ discord
This one right? https://hexbear.net/post/95305
I'm reading through these and they seem like the expected comments from users who were just banned from the site for discussing veganism. Frustrated and discussing how badly the admins have handled it.
There's a major difference between frustrated users who have been banned for participating in a site they wanted to join and forge a community in, and people who joined to 'wreck' like accusing Beatnik of pedophilia or spamming John Kerry.
People say hyperbole when they are mad or feel betrayed.
How did you manage to get flexible enough to bend over backwards to defend this? Yoga? Pilates?
Its not that much of a stretch
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Wasn't this only considered wrecking to discuss veganism across the site like three days ago? You can't call it wrecking if there was no rule against it prior to that.
If they did it after, then ban them from those communities. Their histories don't show that though.
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It would have been a lot clearer to give that as a reason in the mod log, because as it stands it looks like an immature admin just kicked someone they don't like.
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