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  • StLangoustine [any]
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    4 years ago

    I haven't watched neither Earthlings or Dominion. I've heard similar descriptions of those movies and decided that by being vegan I earned the right to not put myself though this kind of thing. Tbh if I watched them right now they would probably make me much more serious about activism and turn me into the kind of vegan that gets banned from this site.

    • pocket_tofu [she/her,fae/faer]
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      4 years ago

      :sadness:

      That's actually a thing in activist circles. Sometimes when we're feeling discouraged, we'll go and re-watch one of these docs to light that fire under us again.

      Living in a carnist society, there's a lot of pressure to normalize, ignore, and forget the violence brought upon animals. Out of sight, out of mind.

      That's why one major type of activism is just getting people to stop looking away.

      • StLangoustine [any]
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        4 years ago

        Sometimes when we’re feeling discouraged, we’ll go and re-watch one of these docs to light that fire under us again

        Shit. That's a little bit fucked. When I was more active in the activist scene and was on twitter and facebook I was subscribed to a whole bunch of activists I knew. My timeline looked like something from a horror movie, 60% of it was blood, gore and suffering, like a window straight to the depths of hell...

        • pocket_tofu [she/her,fae/faer]
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          4 years ago

          Oh yeah, activist culture needs to use way more trigger warnings. I think there's just (justifiable) fear that the people who need to see it will refuse to look. Nevertheless, CWs protect activists (and everyone else) from getting compassion fatigue and secondary trauma.

          • StLangoustine [any]
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            4 years ago

            Me? I just got a habit of defocusing my eyes every time I saw a hint of red on a facebook page.

      • pocket_tofu [she/her,fae/faer]
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        4 years ago

        I knew it was bad. I never, ever could’ve imagined how horrific it is to see.

        Also (since I already responded to this)

        "If it's good enough for your stomach, it's good enough for your eyes." That's an adage activists use sometimes to convince carnists to watch documentaries or footage like this.

        You'll see some users here get very upset when we refer to meat as a tortured corpse, even hyperbolically accusing vegans of emotional abuse for using that language. But it's important to eschew euphemisms and abstractions. We need to stop putting carnist fragility over the literal trillions of lives we take every year.

      • 24324564745364253q49 [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        We do have to avoid criticizing the actual workers that do the slaughtering, they're often undocumented immigrants and only do the work because they can find nothing else. They're exploited as well, often at threat of deportation by the factory farm company.

          • 24324564745364253q49 [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            I'm sure there's a lot of coping mechanisms needed to work in a place beating the shit out of animals all day, the smell of blood and rotting around you. Apparently a lot of slaughterhouse workers get PTSD from it.

      • pocket_tofu [she/her,fae/faer]
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        4 years ago

        and then every fucking human element in the process is a complete fucking sadist.

        They have to be. There's not a lot of other ways to cope. Here's more info on slaughterhouse workers:

        https://foodispower.org/human-labor-slavery/slaughterhouse-workers/

    • 24324564745364253q49 [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      As a vegan who was banned from this site earlier today, (and then unbanned) I feel confident in encouraging you to watch it.

      Really, the level of information in it is so useful, especially if you're trying to talk to other people about it. Two people not really knowing what the processes they're talking about don't get anywhere.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko

      The sections go by animal, so skip to whichever animal derivative you're looking for a better understanding of.