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Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful.
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I wanna reread before I speculate too much, but I'm sure at least a part of its appeal is the reaction to liberal self-flagellation and relegating the blame to a kind of "big other": "It's not your fault for not buying that electric car and giving up straws, it's part of the curse of industrialization!"
My pet theory is that he was deliberately pushed as a "Misunderstood genius" because he advocated for a dead end and harmless to the system philosophy that preyed on growing environmentalism and prevented that from uniting with actual leftist struggle.
If Leftists only hate strong things, there is no way they'd hate America in this day and age.
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His conclusion is hilariously wrong like most of what he comes up with. This is due to the western right's view of ingroups and outgroups. Their ingroup is westerners and outgroup is non-westerners. This is why they so easily descend into racism and xenophobia. Whenever anything bad happens, blame The Other. But here's a really interesting essay that argues that the western left's ingroups are the right's outgroups, and the left's outgroup is the right. It's the milieu where the "will trade racists for rapists" signs came from.
I think it's funny how often Slate Star and its associated groups come so close to Marxist theory while dancing around the edge of it and this article is no different:
Are these tribes based on geography? Are they based on race, ethnic origin, religion, IQ, what TV channels you watched as a kid? I don’t know.
What could it be? Maybe some common sort of... substantial situations? :curious-marx: no that's not quite it
EDIT: Also immediately after that he implies it's genetic :michael-laugh:
He has powerful "edgy redditor who is massively obsessed with the 'tracking game through the ruins of the Sears Tower' speech in Fight Club and now it's his whole personality" energy
He wants society to... satisfy everyone’s needs for them, take care of them.
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Fucker wants to go back to hunter-gatherer society and he doesn't even realize how socially connected and interdependent members of those societies are
He doesn't understand that humans produce to survive. Whether it's hunting or agriculture. Even paleolithic tribes produced for one another. The idea that everyone should only produce for themselves and act as complete individuals is bad because it means any mistake means you're dead. Break a foot? Dead. Get the sniffles? Dead. Fight a wolf and get chewed up too badly? Dead. The way our society works is heavily tied to our relationship to the production. It's basic Marxism.
He seems to view past societies as just groups of individuals who only produced for themselves, completely independent from everyone else. That's never happened. The self-made man is just capitalist propaganda from the late 19th and early 20th century. It's never existed. Completely ahistorical and immaterial. It's always been that some group does the work and some group benefits from it. It's the change in those relationships that drives history. Not one guy going to live by himself in the woods and dominating nature and being transcendental about shit.
Literally our only evolutionary advantage over other animals is our social intelligence and our ability to work together towards common goals. Our intelligence and our ability to make primitive tools isn't what made our species be able to survive a harsh wilderness with predators that are far stronger and more deadly than we are. It was our tendency to form communities and work together that led to our status as the dominant lifeform on this planet, for lack of a better phrase.
Individualism wants to enjoy the benefits of that collective work while not admitting that they owe any debt to the contributions that made their individual success possible.
Were people unironically supporting him? Have people been making Unabomber jokes without having read the manifesto? It's basically straight out of any weirdo conservative trying to psychologize everything.
I just assume anyone besides Marx is an idiot and it generally hits more than it misses.
170 years later and still nails it more than 99% of modern political theorists lol
-Soulja
Anprims be like: "without modern medicine, only the strong will survive. We are social darwinists, but we're not explicitly stating it"
The only good anprims are the ones who take it as a personal philosophy and just wanna live alone on a hunter gatherer commune, the second it becomes a political ideology to be applied to society its genocidal.
I've met some dope ones who were good drinking buddies. They hate capitalism and not afraid of anything.
Rationality is when you destroy the real ecosystem that keeps you alive for imaginary money, and the more ecocide you commit, the more rationaler it is.
that's pretty funny since my major criticism of MLs is that they sometimes deflect criticism of Actually Existing Socialism by pointing out that those societies are "strong" and "successful."
People who don't like communism can generally be divided into two groups: people who don't understand it, and the bourgeoisie
Sorry like, a backwards feudal monarchy had a communist revolution, and the former serfs only surpassed contemporary Western womens' liberation by half, instead of reaching 2021 standards in 1980. Like they only had women massively enrolled in higher education before the USA, a longstanding liberal democracy, instead of eliminating sexism right after shooting the Tsar.
To be fair, this is one of the downsides of democracy because of the threat of the tyranny of the majority.
Class analysis is a powerful tool because it shows where so many of our mutual interests overlap with each other, but it cannot alone solve issues that arise from conflicting culture, bigotry, fear, phobias, and other intra-class conflicts that don't have their roots in rationality. The only way to advance on those fronts is through social struggle and education.
Of course, I believe it's far easier to carry out that struggle under a workers government and a socialist economy than it is under capitalism, for the simple fact that capitalists will constantly stoke those divisions because they are powerful barriers to solidarity against capitalism. It's always going to be easier to fight fires when you aren't letting the arsonist continue to lighting them.
It’s almost as though the West is the primary reason that colonized countries have those traits
☀️ Hot Take ☀️ some people like complex ideas but the people who they use to espouse their ideas are not always a golden god, a pillar of perfection.
🌶 And this person is in prison, a position which is purposefully stifling and degrading, whilst you critique him from your perspective.🌶
His targets, aside from the collateral victims who still matter of course, were among other things a literal passenger aircraft, a professor in electrical engineering, a geneticist, two computer scientists, literally just computer store owners and finally two executives and a timber lobbyist. He was just a piece of dogshit serial killer who justified his actions with a bunch of complex bullshit.
