I am confused as to how people will be able to desolve the state under caputalism without first using the state to end capitalism.
The capitalists will just continue to be the state.
I agree that we should continuously exami e hierarchies and aboloshing them as they are unjust or no longer needed. But going straight from wgere we are into abolishing the state, won't keep the state away.
It's the same end goal, just different means to get there, and I do not see how we acheive that goal without a proletariat state.
I mean ML projects can definitely work, I mean look at Burkina Faso and Thomas Sankara for example. My problem is who will be in charge of the state/ the party that is the dictatorship of the proletariat while using the state to end capitalism. If it's a party that has the values of or elects a leader like Thomas Sankara, Lenin or even Nelson Mandela then I think it can work. The problem is if the dictatorship of the proletariat is led by someone that's corrupt or irrational and they only get voted in "because there is no better alternative" I don't see it working. For example in my own country I don't trust that the EFF, the largest "leftist" party, to be able to establish the dictatorship of the proletariat, even if they win an election or participate in a revolution, as their leadership is extremely corrupt and money hungry. And people vote for this leadership, so it's not as if they're tyrannical dictators of the party. I believe they would endlessly exploit their position in power if they were to get it.
Yeah it's all about the material conditions present at the current location and time for me. I've said in previous comments that I've voted and supported ML parties in the past, and will probably do so in future, but my general distrust for authority and personal experience with government corruption and incompetence is why I'm an AnCom personally
I am confused as to how people will be able to desolve the state under caputalism without first using the state to end capitalism.
The capitalists will just continue to be the state.
I agree that we should continuously exami e hierarchies and aboloshing them as they are unjust or no longer needed. But going straight from wgere we are into abolishing the state, won't keep the state away.
It's the same end goal, just different means to get there, and I do not see how we acheive that goal without a proletariat state.
What am I missing?
I mean ML projects can definitely work, I mean look at Burkina Faso and Thomas Sankara for example. My problem is who will be in charge of the state/ the party that is the dictatorship of the proletariat while using the state to end capitalism. If it's a party that has the values of or elects a leader like Thomas Sankara, Lenin or even Nelson Mandela then I think it can work. The problem is if the dictatorship of the proletariat is led by someone that's corrupt or irrational and they only get voted in "because there is no better alternative" I don't see it working. For example in my own country I don't trust that the EFF, the largest "leftist" party, to be able to establish the dictatorship of the proletariat, even if they win an election or participate in a revolution, as their leadership is extremely corrupt and money hungry. And people vote for this leadership, so it's not as if they're tyrannical dictators of the party. I believe they would endlessly exploit their position in power if they were to get it.
Oh alright, that i can see for sure.
Yeah it's all about the material conditions present at the current location and time for me. I've said in previous comments that I've voted and supported ML parties in the past, and will probably do so in future, but my general distrust for authority and personal experience with government corruption and incompetence is why I'm an AnCom personally