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Twitch has entirely eliminated adblocking on desktop web
Nope, ive not watched an ad on twitch for years.
Youtube (like Reddit) has forgotten that they only exist in the first place because of the uploads of their users. They produce no content themselves. They need us a LOT more than we need them.
They produce their own content. It's worse. Never forget Logan Paul's Hunger Games ripoff YT movie
You realize as revenue and premium subs are the only reason they host video right? They’d rather you quit using their bandwidth. You literally cost them money.
The enemy has cappucinos and ivy grads, but we have monster and FOSS enthusiasts. Monster and FOSS Enthusiasts will always beat cappucinos and ivy grads.
Mao Zedong
What're you talking about? I use a Firefox plugin that blocks ads on Twitch. I haven't seen one since I started using it.
I think video platforms should be hosted by the government, like public libraries. They are very difficult to run at a profitable rate, and YouTube is basically a monopoly in this space. But it has an incredible value to society.
To that they will immediately answer - but do you want all your youtube habits to be in the hands of the government?
do you want all your youtube habits to be in the hands of the government?
They already are
People out there not really understanding the cooperative roles of the state, government and capitial under capitialism to reinforce bougerois rule.
I unfortunately can't speak to this directly as I don't have direct knowledge of ad blockers.
However, in these systems, it will always be a cat and mouse game. And there are more of us than them, so to speak. There always will be.
So they embed the ads. Then someone does some clever coding to watch for ads and auto skip. YouTube finds a way around that, the community circumvents their fix. It always has and always will work that way. The technology works for all of us.
Which is mostly crowd sourced correct? That was another example I'd considered.
Yep, and it's a lot more successful than you'd think. I've been using it for over a year now and I literally have not come across a sponsored video yet that hasn't had its sponsored segments reported. Not even on videos that were uploaded literally 10 minutes ago. Highly recommend
I unfortunately can't speak to this directly as I don't have direct knowledge of ad blockers.
Yeah me too
Twitch has what now? That's the first (and will be last) time I hear that
Yup! It's what finally made me stop watching twitch (embarrassing, I know, I'm more of a gamer than I like to admit). Minutes of unskippable ads, way too often, and no adblocker could get rid of them. The best I could find was a twitch redirect that would block the ad, but it couldn't give you the content back, so when the ads happened the stream would just go dark until they were over. I decided enough was enough and I haven't gone on twitch since. I'm mentally preparing to do the same with youtube if and when they succeed in breaking adblockers. Which is going to absolutely suck, I watch a lot of youtube, but maybe it'll actually be a good thing and I'll be on the internet less.
Hard embedding ads works for live streams since you can't know when exactly any given ad will start or end. If Youtube were to do this, it would be very trivial for sponsorblock to simply take on the role of adblocker since the community would be able to report the location of the ads.
If its possible to watch the video, then it's possible to watch the video without ads.
Worst case scenario: videos can be downloaded and adverts stripped from them. (If you can watch it, you can copy it.) Would you be prepared to trade, say, a 20 minute timeshift delay on your YouTube videos' initial publish time for no adverts? I would.
they'll kill adblockers pretty quickly if they start banning gmail accounts for using them
I think this is on their eventual roadmap, somewhere just after not allowing anyone to log in without a verified WEI check for """"security""""
Then you can stop all the YouTube rehosting sites like piped by baking in little 1 pixel changes that uniquely identify the account that ripped the video. Netflix and others will do this as well to try to stop piracy.
They're going to go scorched earth on this, I just know it. The Internet will become as bad as cable was and this is the turning point.
Google gave up WEI, for now at least. They will try again later though. https://securityboulevard.com/2023/11/google-wei-is-dead-richixbw/
Wouldn't say "dead" just put on the back burner. They'll get their way eventually just like they did with net neutrality. (Responding to the article headline not you exactly)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Environment_Integrity
Google is pushing for websites to implement this software that talks to your TPM (trusted platform) chip on your computer and has it attest to the state of your web stack. Then, the website gets to decide if that's okay and can deny you access if there's any "funny business" such as ad blockers installed, or you're using a browser they don't like, or maybe even running an os they don't like. We'll almost certainly find ways around it for a while, but it's going to get better (for them, worse for you)
They'd have to force people to be logged in for this to be effective, but yeah, it's definitely a possibility.
Man I'd happily pay for YouTube if every video didn't spend half of it banging on about their sponsor
Congrats, that already exists as a browser addon and it's free. Look up sponsorblock.
If you're using desktop, SponsorBlock is a pretty good extension for this. Works for most browsers and auto-skips right over most sponsored segments. I don't think YouTube is fighting this sort of adblock since it doesn't actually target the "actual" ads, just skips to certain video times.
On mobile, LibreTube and ReVanced have Sponsorblock. There's also a fork of Newpipe with Sponsorblock.
Short-term, absolutely.
Long-term? Bad product experience is why people bought those eye patches, or straight up moved to another platform.
Bad product experience is why people bought those eye patches
Who wins in the end is beside the point, since the time adblock works is a victory for it
But yes, YT has a set of substantial advantages over any free service
Don't you ever ever ever ever ever say some negative things like that again
