I'm trying to find an essay, research, or any deeper analysis about why some people, most often conservatives, don't understand film. One of my FB friends posted this meme and it got me thinking about this phenomena.

Some people watch a film* and take the characters and the story completely at face value. They don't see any deeper message from the director. They don't understand that Goodfellas for example, is not a film about a couple of cool guys. Scorsese is not endorsing their behavior or their values.

Any help diving deeper into this topic is appreciated.

*By the way, you could say the same for literature, but since most people don't read past high school. I wanted to focus my question on film.

ETA: Thanks everyone for engaging with me. I've been a lurker and commenter since the early Reddit days, this was my first post.

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I think people who "identify with" those characters know they're bad but just think being bad is cool (because, you know, they're depicted as exciting and cool looking and badass). I mean, the word badass itself is supposed to have a negative connotation but actually doesn't. I think it's more about American mythos/propaganda overpowering whatever critiques are in some piece of media. And some people just want to have some kind of avatar or character they identify with who is 'edgy' (I mean lot of people who like these folks, you know, are actually like these characters, and it probably doesn't matter that they are negative depictions).

    If I watched an anti-communist movie that portrayed Lenin as some kind of evil badass, I would probably still root for him. I saw some scenes from "Olympus has Fallen" and found it funny how badass the Koreans in the movie are (even though they have them commit a bunch of random nonsensical crimes). I don't think any of us would watch some stupid reactionary movie and be like "I've been owned, we must abandon communism" because of some depiction of communists. It's probably the same way for people who are actual sociopaths or wannabe gangsters.

    And of course, as ch*po, says, nobody changes their mind or learns anything new through movies and stuff.*

    Edit: *Unless you make it extremely obvious.

    • StLangoustine [any]
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      3 years ago

      And of course, as ch*po, says, nobody changes their mind or learns anything new through movies and stuff.

      This not true though, is it? I'm sure a lot of people changed their views on hot-button issues because of movies and shows. I suspect a good movie is more effective in this regard than facts, logic and peer reviewed studies.

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I think I was missing the "unless you hit them over the head with it part", just added that.

    • TheUrbanaSquirrel [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      That kind of gets into newer research about misinformation. Misinformation doesn't plant a new idea that the person wasn't already receptive to. For example, if you're already anti-immigrant then you're primed to take the MS-13 shit at face value.