I mean specifically the more avant-garde stuff based around things like feedback loops, distortion, and white noise, like Merzbow or the Incapacitants. I personally consider it valid as music, but exploring different techniques and sensibilities than "normal" music.
Any noise groups/musicians y'all like?
i think Black Dresses is described as noise pop and they are amazing.
here’s a loud one but they have chiller songs i really love. https://youtu.be/fpmcuKb4QDw