I’m done with my schtick that AOC is good or bad depending on the day.

She’s taking money from young progressives who want her to primary conservative dems and giving it directly to conservative dems like Conor Lamb... lmao.

She also gave money to CIA spook Abigail spanbergler who has publicly and privately talked shit about her repeatedly... lol

I didn’t realize her descent into being awful would be this quick. Wonder what her associated orgs are doing? Will justice dems just fizzle out or be wrapped into the establishment?

Yikes all around.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Always hoped Bernie or Gloria La Riva would win but outside of that I've been checked out of electoralism since like I get burnt out on Ron Paul back in my reactionary libertarian days.

    • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Well, check into local electoralism because the left won’t even get a glimpse of any real power without it. But you’re right about National electoralism

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah I should have added the caveat that local elections matter. Of course they do, what's happening in your neighborhood I'd say is often more important than the national level. And beyond that, electoralism at that level has all but made sure nothing will fundamentally change.

        • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          As someone who helped a local politician get elected, I'm not even sure local elections can escape the grip of special interests, especially in bigger cities. Took 6 months before our guy started to go the way of the rest of them. That alone completely blackpilled me in regards to anything related to electoralism in this current system. Maybe that's just a one off, but I just don't know.

          • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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            4 years ago

            I dunno either. The whole thing feels hopeless, that you just want to throw your hands up in the air and give up and just hold on for a revolution. I think ultimately electoralism needs to be just another tool in an arsenal of weapons.

            • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah idk dawg. I'll fully admit that I'm a bit more on the doomer side. I think even if you could get some type of electoral movement going, the way congress is designed, any drastic changes would take a hella long time. I still don't think many people understand the gravity of the climate situation at this point. We just don't have that much time.

              Chomsky was getting stick from the left earlier when he said something to the effect that capitalism will basically have to solve the issue of climate change. I don't think his point was that capitalism was the right ideology for this or anything - more that the upheaval of capitalism would take far longer than it would take to just come up with some cookie cutter solutions to at least make sure the market lives. There's a vested interest for these ghouls to keep people alive, IN THEORY. However, I'm not sure Chomsky understands how insatiable these greedy fucks are and that's always been his blind spot.