You do not, in fact, have to hand it to them

This is fitting when referring to the irredeemable, but it's sad to me seeing it used like this to a hexbear who fucked up big time, but who was an integral part of the community for all of hexbear/chapo.chat's existence. I do hand it to him. He made some great comments. I missed what went down and it's all deleted now so I can't say first hand, but if he really was going full racist... that's beyond cringe and the ban was deserved. Whatever though, I jived with him a a number of times on here and fuck yeah, I'm still going to uh "hand it to him" even if I'll always insist he fucking self crit. Edit: I mean, I'll probably never talk to him again, which sucks, but you know what I mean.

You probably can identify (sounds like you can anyway), my relationship with the chemical tendrils is pretty extensive and intertwined. It take a lot of time and effort to disentangle. If you knew ambien, and if you know alcohol, you know at least a couple gabaergics, just for the record. My condolences or congratulations on being bipolar, I'm not sure how you like to look at it. Personally, I've got AvPD (avoidant PD). I appreciate and thank you for the offer for an ear, I'll remember that and also I extended the same offer to you comrade.

edit: rereading this, omg, soooo many typos and shit I'm cringing. I think I better try to get to sleep. Thanks for the conversation comrade. :heart-sickle:

If good frats exist, I will defer to you. I was never in one, and know them only by reputation. I'm skeptical, but... yeah, if yours was good, awesome. It wasn't confusing I guess (I'm drunk too) so much as it seemed out of the blue but that's probably because I missed some contect. As for the effort post, make it if YOU want. I think it would make an interesting one and I'd hope it would garner some good discussion, but what do I know? Likewise good talking with you. Goodnight, comrade.

Oh fuck, do I know ambien can be... well, as you aid, the devil. Certainly a double edged sword. It alrady has it's hooks in me but I'm working at slowly pulling them back out.

TBH, I am kind of struggling rn, but not just with ambien, also a few different gbaergics. I'd like to think I still haven't lost total control and keep them in check, but you know how that goes. I probably shouldn't even be saying this in open/main, but wth.

I have to admit, I'm a little lost on where where this person comes in (well, film class apparently) but I'm glad you found him. Having a close companion, compatriot, comrade... if you don't have a real community, and who does in atomized hellworld, having one of them is the next best thing. Sounds like you two are beyond, as they say, "tight." That's awesome. TBH, I really wish I had a friend like that.

FWIW, I can identify. I did a bunch of ambien (on it now actually) as well as some benzos and just totally broke. I have no memory of events but apparently I said and did some pretty shocking things to the few people in my life. Lots of regret around that. Anyway... glad you avoided the bigotry! (I did too as it happens). I don't know why I'm saying this. Just... solidarity on blacking out with ambien, I guess. :latam-solidarity:

I am a huge proponent of using psychedelics and breakthrough experiences as steps on a path towards radical leftism. It played a role in my own journey fwiw. I am happy to hear that you had such an experience, which it sounds was pretty profound. Kill BIll wouldn't be my first choice, but the kinds of things that work for or speak to or are just otherwise important to people are endless. I think it's nothing short of amazing that that is the event you name that led to to communism. Personally, I think a telling of that story is worth a post of its own.

Edit: also condolences on the trauma you experienced. That's not a price a comrade should have to pay for growth, but I realize a lot of times it really is what is payed.

That's almost the saddest case. They're there, they've got it, they're sane... but for that one, tenacious worm that just infests that specific spot in their brain and it won't come out. You want to give them the benefit of the doubt and just let that one worm go, but you know they spread, they multiply if allowed to stay in there. And that's when the slurs start to fly, as you said. It's really sad to me that PootrK had some of those festering, infecting. I hope he can have them excised.

I'd like to think it's possible to grow without pain, but I'd agree... if you want to actually have even a rudimentary understanding of what it really means to be human, hell, to be sentient, you have to have and know a lot of pain. A lot of suffering.

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sad to hear. Seemed cool to me, but I sometimes miss what's going on around here.

Argh. Weird. Disappointing. Thanks for the info.

Being harsh in self crit is important and necessary, but it can also be too easy to be unhelpfully brutal if someone is prone to it. You have to be kind to yourself while realizing you might also be full of shit, yeah? If someone self-crits successfully and healthily, the next hard part is applying it and changing behavior. A person can do that alone ofc, but I think community assistance, given a trusted and respected community can be what really makes the difference to a true recovery.

And hell yes, this place strikes the balance between kindness and solidarity with shitposts and scathing humor with actual news and reality so fucking well. So ucking glad I know of this little oasis of reality and kindness. It plays a big role in my ability to survive hellworld.

Pain, Multiple meds, Alcohol, rage, and stress will never in combination lead to wise behavior. I know, I'm trying to balance that right now. :agony-shivering: Makes people stupid? yeah, makes people vulnerable and prone to crashing for sure. Edit: I hope amends can be made with the chill dude (might be surprised how chill he'll be about it all if indeed he's a chill dude). Maybe he liked your Stalin LARPING and if not, just try to take it down a notch or two next time - you know, hide your power level.

Pain, Multiple meds, Alcohol, rage, and stress will never in combination lead to wise behavior. I know, I'm trying to balance that right now. :agony-shivering: Makes people stupid? yeah, makes people vulnerable and prone to crashing for sure.

Oh, ok. That does make sense unfortunately. So is that you. pootr?? If so... What did happen? (If you don't mind.)

You nuked the discord?? Bold. heh

Cringe in sympathy is about all I can do right now too, especially since I'm still not clear on what happened. Still surprised, but taking the word of everyone else. If he's mentally unwell, I hope he gets whatever help is needed.

I don't understand, why don't I see any of the comment removals in the modlog? Just the ban.

ugh. How disappointing. Seemed like one of the power posters. I never noticed any of that, but that's probably due to my own blind spots.

It's not like I knew him super well, but I followed his posts and enjoyed them. Is there any remote possibility someone got into his account, or are we sure that was him? I mean... if it was his account -chances are it was him, but is there any benefit of the doubt that might possibly be given that maybe someone else was on the account? I mean.... carving a fucking swastika?? Like you said, after making it through 2 years of regular chapo.chat/hexbear posting? Maybe I'm just in denial.

Fuuuuuu.. PootrKrobuttkin banned for a racist diatribe??! :jesse-wtf: I can't believe it. That one's been a mainstay and always pretty cool I thought. I see the banning in the modlog, but no comments banned. What thread did this happen in?