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  • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Imagine using this site for literally years on the same account, making it through all the purges of reactionary users to date, becoming a well known member of the community only to suddenly go on a racist rant, get banned, nuke your July 2020 account and thereby massively contribute to the Swiss-cheesification of old Hexbear posts, make a bunch of alts to do wrecker shit, and refuse to do even the smallest iota of self crit.

    Yeah, sometimes leftists have unexamined reactionary opinions, it happens. But you'd think using Hexbear for that long would go a long way in correcting those opinions, or at least make them more amenable to self crit. Especially since users who are prone to this type of explosive behavior upon being called out usually have this type of outburst within a month or two at most of using this site, not years. Legitimately in awe of how this didn't happen sooner.

      • Hexhog [any]
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        2 years ago

        I don't understand, why don't I see any of the comment removals in the modlog? Just the ban.

          • Hexhog [any]
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            2 years ago

            Oh, ok. That does make sense unfortunately. So is that you. pootr?? If so... What did happen? (If you don't mind.)

            • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              nah, I'm the guy that fucked up the gaming comm discord for a bit. I was blackout, on generic ambien, and on a legal amphetamine, so I don't remember shit. I was told I was just being a massive shithead not like a bigot tho.

              • Hexhog [any]
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                2 years ago

                FWIW, I can identify. I did a bunch of ambien (on it now actually) as well as some benzos and just totally broke. I have no memory of events but apparently I said and did some pretty shocking things to the few people in my life. Lots of regret around that. Anyway... glad you avoided the bigotry! (I did too as it happens). I don't know why I'm saying this. Just... solidarity on blacking out with ambien, I guess. :latam-solidarity:

                • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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                  2 years ago

                  I don't want to be presumptous, my insomnia is basically untreated now, but that shit can be the devil...not always. can tho. It helps talking to a comrade who has been there. If you ever want an ear, or anything else, I check my account at least once a day. I know people can be healthy with it, but I was snorting it sooooooo lol I hope your relationship with it is healthy or if nothing else a net gain

    • Hexhog [any]
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      2 years ago

      It's not like I knew him super well, but I followed his posts and enjoyed them. Is there any remote possibility someone got into his account, or are we sure that was him? I mean... if it was his account -chances are it was him, but is there any benefit of the doubt that might possibly be given that maybe someone else was on the account? I mean.... carving a fucking swastika?? Like you said, after making it through 2 years of regular chapo.chat/hexbear posting? Maybe I'm just in denial.

      • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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        2 years ago

        He’s been making low key homophobic and misogynist slip-ups for a while, and then doubling down when called out. I’m not shocked that he’s racist too

        • Hexhog [any]
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          2 years ago

          ugh. How disappointing. Seemed like one of the power posters. I never noticed any of that, but that's probably due to my own blind spots.

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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        2 years ago

        Hes said a loooot of sus shit. It’s a pattern of behavior. Every time something reactionary he does or thinks gets called out he has a meltdown about it, doubled down, and refuses to hear people out

        • Hexhog [any]
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          2 years ago

          :cringe:

          sad to hear. Seemed cool to me, but I sometimes miss what's going on around here.

          • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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            2 years ago

            I mean he’s nice enough until you broach something he has brainworms about. I have family like that, perfectly pleasant til they start throwing slurs around and it’s like “dude where tf is this coming from?” Lol

            • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Honestly I think a big part of the problem is that he clearly is addicted to the blood and dopamine rush you get when you are in a heated argument. Like, there are physiological reasons why some people seek out conflict like this.

            • Hexhog [any]
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              2 years ago

              That's almost the saddest case. They're there, they've got it, they're sane... but for that one, tenacious worm that just infests that specific spot in their brain and it won't come out. You want to give them the benefit of the doubt and just let that one worm go, but you know they spread, they multiply if allowed to stay in there. And that's when the slurs start to fly, as you said. It's really sad to me that PootrK had some of those festering, infecting. I hope he can have them excised.

      • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I nuked a hexbear discord once during a mental break, I’m not going to cast stones at the head at least. Tbf I was being sectarian not racist. Other users claimed they he was mentally unwell, so I cringe in sympathy while I laugh.

        • Hexhog [any]
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          2 years ago

          You nuked the discord?? Bold. heh

          Cringe in sympathy is about all I can do right now too, especially since I'm still not clear on what happened. Still surprised, but taking the word of everyone else. If he's mentally unwell, I hope he gets whatever help is needed.

          • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            I was drunk on meds that under no circumstances should be mixed with alcohol. Combine that with all the rage at the world I was under.... basically I banned like the chillest dude and went full LARP as a discord stalin. Woke up, apologized, transferred server, and deleted. idk, I just see the possibility that all the stress people with hearts are under, all the unreleased lack of catharsis...idk. Pain makes people stupid.

            • Hexhog [any]
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              2 years ago

              Pain, Multiple meds, Alcohol, rage, and stress will never in combination lead to wise behavior. I know, I'm trying to balance that right now. :agony-shivering: Makes people stupid? yeah, makes people vulnerable and prone to crashing for sure. Edit: I hope amends can be made with the chill dude (might be surprised how chill he'll be about it all if indeed he's a chill dude). Maybe he liked your Stalin LARPING and if not, just try to take it down a notch or two next time - you know, hide your power level.

              • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                That is an empathetic way to view it, I try to be harsh in my own self-crit at least. I certainly needed it, probably still do lol. He is a cool dude, but I am not sober yet. I use the incentive of mending things to slowly draw down my substance abuse. It's worked so far. Got myself off most of that shit so far.

                edit: see my other comment about this place being kind...you're demonstrating it rn. thank you. I know dunking and hilarious insults are a trademark here, but balance in the force and all that

                • Hexhog [any]
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                  2 years ago

                  Being harsh in self crit is important and necessary, but it can also be too easy to be unhelpfully brutal if someone is prone to it. You have to be kind to yourself while realizing you might also be full of shit, yeah? If someone self-crits successfully and healthily, the next hard part is applying it and changing behavior. A person can do that alone ofc, but I think community assistance, given a trusted and respected community can be what really makes the difference to a true recovery.

                  And hell yes, this place strikes the balance between kindness and solidarity with shitposts and scathing humor with actual news and reality so fucking well. So ucking glad I know of this little oasis of reality and kindness. It plays a big role in my ability to survive hellworld.

            • Hexhog [any]
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              2 years ago

              Pain, Multiple meds, Alcohol, rage, and stress will never in combination lead to wise behavior. I know, I'm trying to balance that right now. :agony-shivering: Makes people stupid? yeah, makes people vulnerable and prone to crashing for sure.

  • Weedian [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    2 year without getting banned gang

    im not much of a poster but still

  • mr_world [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I told him to log off. I told him to find friends in-person. He refused. When you have in-person leftist friends, it's harder to hold onto the brainworms because there are actual social consequences other than being banned (which you can get around by making alts). It's why isolation can be a problem for leftists and why you have to work on your social anxiety. Though I suspect some of the anxiety he was experiencing was caused by feelings of being a bad leftist if exposed to other leftists. They would have found him out, pushed him into confronting his brainworms, and then he would have had a meltdown like this. That's really what the fear was, not talking to other people.

    Don't isolate yourselves. Seek others.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      It's pretty easy to think stupid things and still be a good leftist. I have kinda reactionary views on polyandry, and sometimes the way people talk about their gender or sexuality kinda annoys me( not often, but on occasion. I'mnot going into why or how because it doesn't matter, it's brainworms). I just acknowledge my opinions aren't important and aren't really leftist and just shut up. I'm a straight white cis man from a decent financial background, there is a lot of programming in me to be reactionary and, if I don't do the work to dig it all out, the least I can do is shut up and let other people do what is best for them. It's that easy.

  • Mindfury [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    man, I stop paying attention to this website for like 2 hours after dinner to play COD and I miss some hilarious shit

    this is what i get for being a cracker on hell island :aus-delenda-est:

  • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I sleep in ONCE and I have to miss one of the oldest accounts destroying two years of respect on the site in the matter of an hour

  • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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    2 years ago

    Lathe: the next big struggle session is when a bunch of users realized that we're not joking about how we thinks libs are moderate fascists and that our support for "controversial" socialist leaders like Stalin, Mao, or the Kims are serious and uncritical.

    • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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      2 years ago

      Serious, yes, uncritical, no. I’ve seen plenty of users here bring up valid criticisms of various socialist leaders that they otherwise support. And it’s a good thing too, imo, lest we stray too far into great man/hero worship territory

      EDIT: just saw the “revisionist babies” comment and realized I may be responding seriously to a bit. :shrug-outta-hecks:

      • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Are there any actually valid criticisms of Lenin other than dying young? Sure he was a gym bro, let he who hasn’t mired cast the first stone

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There's the Kronstadt but IIRC Lenin himself admitted he fucked that up.

          • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            based on my understanding they posed an actual threat? like weren't they trying to seced with an important port? like the westoids sent an expeditionary force less than 15 years ago at that point

            • spectre [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              That's the thing with these things, you get into a political discussion and things get very gray and hypothetical. It can be pretty interesting if people want to get a deep understanding and dive deep in the discussion, but uncritical support for the USSR's actions or demonizing the USSR's actions usually terminates the discussion long before anything of value is extracted from it.

      • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah what you're saying is true. So many revolutionaries are so thoroughly demonized that thinking Stalin did good made you out like some sort of a maniac outside of ML spaces, and there are legitimate criticism informed communists can make that are far cry from the mud reactionaries sling.

      • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I love my anarchist comrades. Steel sharpens steel, we keep each other in check. :trot-shining:

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    and carving a swatsika into his arm.

    I'm sorry, what????? :what-the-hell:

    If I can just say this too - he was very hard to deal with and could get enraged by even the smallest disagreement. It's now deleted since his profile is gone, but it wasn't that long ago he got very upset that the women and fems on the site corrected him that it's not okay to watch porn at work and expose people to that without their consent. If many women are telling you something is misogynistic, it might just be misogynistic

    Anyways, I'm glad I don't have to worry about interacting with someone that's seconds away from blowing up at me anymore

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      , but it wasn’t that long ago he got very upset that the women and fems on the site corrected him that it’s not okay to watch porn at work and expose people to that without their consent.

      :jesse-wtf::walter-shock::walter-breakdown::mao-wtf::fidel-wut:

      Why are people like this? How can you think it's okay to watch porn in public

      • jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        honestly i dont really get why it isn't? i mean to me it feels like basically the same thing as, like, someone playing music loud enough i can hear it

        so like kinda annoying i guess but not a big thing?

        having said that i would not do it since there's clearly a consensus that it is bad, i just can't quite get it, but im like a fucking idiot so who knows

      • UlyssesT
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        1 month ago

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    • UlyssesT
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      1 month ago

      deleted by creator

      • Kanna [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, that was wild lmao. We really see it all here

    • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Holy fucking shit, I lacked context and thought he was defending a rando who did it and got called out. He actually did it? :BibleThump:

  • Cherufe [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Its been a long time since the last time I logged in, looked at the top posts and said wtf

    Vintage chapo.chat rolling back the years

  • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I saw the beginning of this last night and decided not to jump in because I was tired. Kinda wish I woulda said something right then to try and head it off. I know I too got mad when I first encountered the point that prejudice against white people isn't racism (decades ago), but I eventually learned the difference between prejudice and racism. (For anyone out there who still isn't clear on this: racism is prejudice enforced by power structures; that's why whites can be racist against Black people but not the reverse, because Black people don't have the structural power to make their prejudice into racism.) Maybe I should have said as much right when he was just getting started.

    @PootrKrobuttkin, if you're out there: This was a bad take, but you're not a bad person. Take some time, and maybe do some reading, and come back. Because reddit sucks, and you shouldn't go on there :P

    Edit: It has come to my attention that last night was something of a "bad takes: greatest hits." So I'm thinking the reading, and some self-reflection, is definitely warranted.

    • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      The kindness of this place is why I’m still here in like my 50th account because I feel guilty after being an ass or making a terrible take. The people here are comrades, simple as. And sometimes simple is best. Simply kind. I hope he returns, learns, and gets to post an epic fucking dunk on the inevitable next time this happens.

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      2 years ago

      It wouldn’t have mattered tons of people made similar points last night and in the original struggle sesh. He’s demonstrated he has somewhat of an understanding of the structural issue he just can’t drop the reactionary “well if someone’s mean to le-pol-face that’s racism” argument.

      I think he’s feeling a lot of cognitive dissonance here and is just doubling down, the only thing that can get him over it is himself doing the heavy lifting of unpacking it. I hope he does.

    • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Depending on your time zone, be online during peak drunk hours EST. I was on my midnight lunch break. Giggling like a fool in the break room.

      • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]M
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        2 years ago

        ah man, i get home at midnight EST and usually my doomscrolling comes to an end. that explains it

        • 18558355324 [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          honestly, all my best r/cth memories are coming in at the tail end of an event. participating has less focus. also it could simply be my perspective. I simply don't become aware of drama while I am asleep.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    :huey-wut:

    Very confused by this and struggling to put any of it into a context that makes sense.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I understand that, I read all your other comments. I just can't put any of the out of context stuff into a context that makes sense which is hard when you feel like it's not something a person would do.

        Part of me wonders if they're ok or if something else is going on in their life for it to happen. Meltdowns don't happen without emotional stress existing and given that 2 years on the site has happened with only a few issues (relative to overall participation) with none of it being a full blown meltdown I can't help but think there are factors here that have contributed to it? A lot of the responses you've referenced only make sense to me from such an old user in the context of a person who is deliberately getting themselves nuked from the site because they're having an event so to speak.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Mmm I get that but something still isn't adding up for me though. It's a step beyond and I can't help wondering if they're ok or if something pretty bad is going on for them to drive the final outburst. The last stuff seems like acting out to me, and people only act out in my experience when something else is going on.

            None of this changes what has happened, I'm just concerned and hope they're ok.

            • crime [she/her, any]
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              2 years ago

              I think he'd recently become unemployed, not sure if that was a cause or part of whatever's going on with him.

              And same, big :fidel-wut: about what happened but it's pretty concerning and I hope he's ok

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                Hmm maybe a factor, maybe some other issues extending from that exacerbating it? I don't know. Something's off though. If you're reading this Buttkin please know that people still care even if we obviously condemn that outburst.

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      2 years ago

      I posted this somewhere last night but it may have been in a thread that got deleted so:

      Edit: basically he realized his shit got removed and Malden about it

      he didn’t even notice they [his comments about racism from previous sesh] got removed for at least 24 hours or close to it if I’m not mistaken lol. He was actually posting chill up until he became aware

      Once he noticed them, he made a post about it, deleted it, made another whining around it asking how to delete his account , which I told him how. He then made a whiney comment to someone about how the admins don’t upload emojis fast enough, then saw my comment I assume and deleted his account

      He made two new user names called derivatives of “fuckthissite”, was confused why they got removed instantly

      Finally made this thread on another new acct and then hopped on two other accounts for seemingly just to do it lol

      Edit: to continue. He was also really mad at mods for banning Skoubalon and had Been voice frustrations about that since. So I think it came together where he felt like the authoritarian mod cabal was overreaching on him the way he perceived they did with skoubalon

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I remember a post from him ranting about how he got banned from Reddit and how the people here suck for saying Reddit sucks, which it does. He just comes off as some dude who is online too much and takes bans way too personally.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        This makes some sense, thanks! Still an overreaction that I have to assume involves an outside force/stress causing that level of emotional overreaction. Do hope he's ok.

        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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          2 years ago

          Possibly, but he’s had this happen a good few times over months and I could maybe just pin it on cognitive dissonance and dude rage, but I know he’s blamed it before on not having access to weed or whatever so who knows. I hope it’s one of those things where what’s been said will grow on him over time. I’ve had similar slap fights on the internet I look back on now like 😬lol

  • Prolefarian [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Uh damn I don't know what happened but I thought it seemed like they were having a rough time from their recent posts.

    If it really was a meltdown over "racism against white people is real" that sucks.

    edit: apparently wasn't the only reactionary thing they did. welp :shrug-outta-hecks:

  • forcequit [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    you're pushing me to the riiight

    Most fun ive had on the site since :PSL: pumpkin spice

    • Kanna [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      If a "leftist" was already this close to moving right, he certainly didn't need our help getting there

      • Mindfury [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        imagine being scared of getting the wall

        the mark of a good liberal (because none of you are leftists, only i am lmao) is that you yearn for it

        • Kanna [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Exactly lol. If I'm not radical enough one day, please do what you must :gulag:

          • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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            2 years ago

            :rat-salute: I hope to be eaten by anarchist zoomers one day for not sharing hard enough