Lmao

so do you object to the existence of people that believe they’re spirits or that their souls descended from mythological creatures?

well i do object to that specific belief. as well as i object to religion. i guess the best way would be to treat them as i would treat someone's religious beliefs, with respect. cause after all, the only reason "otherkin" seem much more alien to me is due to societal influence and acceptance. if the roles were to be reversed to where religion were the new idea i hadn't heard of, i presume i'd have the same qualms.

again, thank you for responding to me so much. you've really helped educate me on this topic.

thank you for responding. you've very succinctly written out what i wanted to know.

and i know i'm kinda getting caught up in one topic here but through all of this discussion i know there is only one undeniable truth, which is that we are all human. now if i'm understanding correctly "otherkin" ranges from just feeling a spiritual affinity with a certain animal or mythological creature to truly believing they are descendants of or are the creature in question. this seems to me to be much different than one's gender identity or lack thereof. to give you some context on my beliefs i'm an athiest and don't believe in any sort of spirit, soul, etc. and i know you criticized me for

trying to separate valid from invalid trans people

but i don't feel this to be of the same issue.

thanks for the response.

what are your thoughts on otherkin? and also, sex as in biological sex? now i'm pretty sure that's not fictitious at all as you say.

you know i think you've just changed my view. i guess it doesn't really matter WHY someone labels themselves something. alright, i'll use any preferred pronouns even if it makes me feel a little goofy because it's for their sake, not mine. thanks for the video link.

i understand it's more about the person using these pronouns' feelings than mine. i looked through the user with the doe/deer pronouns and read deer(?) explanation, which is pretty much doe(?) just liked how it sounded. and i will respect deer(?) pronouns.

i know this is literally a bigot talking point and i don't mean it like that. but how do you discern between actual gender expression with pronouns and someone who has a mental condition. i mean, i've seen examples of people calling themselves all kinds of different things and truly believing it. i don't think the users of doe/deer and another i saw in the settings, fae/faer, believe themselves to be a four-legged mammal and a mythical creature respectively. i think i'm correct to think it's more of a coincidence (or not exactly a coincidence but not intended like that) the names are shared. and i'm pretty sure the majority of the population don't feel the need to use neopronouns. which means that people who do use them are special cases. i know correct pronoun usage can cause gender euphoria for some people, but for other people could it just be more of a normal satisfaction? like if i changed my name to something i thought sounded cooler. someone could just like the way certain pronouns sound without actually feeling any sort of gender dysphoria and just be content with their assigned gender. i think i'm just trying to question where legitimate transgender/nonbinary identities and simple preference differ. also sorry about the atrocious writing, phrasing, structure, etc. i'm kind of an idiot.

how would this translate to here and now though? i can't see the majority populace agreeing to refer to someone using those pronouns.

and to add, do you know if there's been any research into the neopronouns (which i just looked up the name of) we're discussing? i know that transgender and nonbinary identities are supported by science but to me that seems a far cry to referring to yourself as doe. i guess i could google this myself but i'm a lazy fuck

thinking about it akin to names is interesting. i haven't considered that. one more question though, i looked at the list of pronouns in the settings and one option is "doe/deer". i don't mean to be insensitive but that seems silly to me. is there a line that can be crossed where pronouns go from a form of gender expression to what seems to me to just be a nickname of sorts? or does anything go? again i'm sorry if this is insensitive. i just don't have a lot of experience with this topic.

oh wow. i'm obtuse aren't i. i guess i would also be interested in why they/them/their aren't okay.

i understand that. but another user's pronouns in this thread are e/em/eir. and to be honest i have never seen those used anywhere before right now. i'm trying to understand where pronouns like those come from.

i guess. but like, how do you settle on a specific spelling or word?

im sorry but "f*t" and "de*d" are too fucking funny

look i hate reddit as much the next fella but there's 0% chance their account got suspended for saying that unless it was a little less eloquently put.