cats are super adaptable, you can amputate on leg without any problem for recovery. i had to make a choice a couple of years ago between cutting my kitties front leg or letting her die of cancer, and now she is super lively and jumpy. i had to give up my pocket money for the year before to convince my parents to let her live (the ghouls) but that was possibly the best use i made of my money in my life yet.

  • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Animals don't have the necessary perspective to be grieve about losing a limb like people do. I've seen a dog wake up from anesthesia after an amputation, start to walk around and almost visibly go "Huh, that's weird, whatever."

    • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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      4 years ago

      my cat tho was a bit shaken after losing her leg, she came home pretty limp, she had a big wrap around her torso, couldnt really move around, she barely ate and was in a pretty miserable state for a couple of weeks.

    • Qelp [they/them,she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I mean my parents put our dog down cuz one of her legs was giving out and her other back one was giving out too. She was really old and had a couple other issues and it was getting to the point where she probably would have had some other life threatening health issue by next week. Probably had cancer as well, we felt a bunch of different bumps on here, but like if she was a year or two younger we probably would have just amputated it or come up with some other solution

  • sappho [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Watching feel-good animal rescue videos on Youtube has really opened my eyes to how well animals can adapt to various mobility issues! I saw one with a pitbull who was missing both front legs - she still bounced around like a happy little rabbit. I actually find it really inspiring, in a weird way. I lost my childhood cat to cancer - I'm happy to hear your kitty recovered so well :)

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    At least your parents accepted the pocket money. Mine were the kind of ghouls that would have kept the money and killed the cat anyway.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This is weirdly relevant. Just now a friend told me they euthanized their cat because it got its paw trapped in a bear like trap (but smaller). It dragged the trap all the way back home and supposedly was in very rough shape. :( Poor kitty.

      • StolenStalin [comrade/them,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah at this point the cat is used to moving without the leg, it would take more time. And a little discomfort for the kitty to relearn.

        • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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          4 years ago

          ok, i checked, the way it works is that it is attatched to the arm bone that was cut in half. we had to remove the arm bone from the shoulder completely, she has no hanging arm.

          also she is no kitty, she is like 6 at this point

    • JackDecker [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Do you have any expertise on the subject? Curious if you think rescue animals with missing limbs should be immediately euthanized because they're living in a "state of torture?" That seems a bit extreme to me.

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        • JackDecker [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          First of all comrade, you really ought to dial down the hostility and charged language. I'm not your enemy, I'm asking for clarification because hearing that animals are in a state of torture without a limb is surprising to me.

          I ask because I've known people who work at animal rescues and I don't believe missing limbs were an immediate euthanization scenario. I'm also fairly certain I've watched videos of cats, dogs, turtles and other mammals/reptiles in rescues who have sustained injuries that resulted in the partial or full dismemberment of limbs and they weren't being immediately and mercifully euthanized. I can't find any good sources googling either. I'm not an expert though. My question was really asking what expertise you have to say with such conviction that amputation and/or a life without limbs is torture. Could you explain why? Are there studies that show extreme emotional distress for animals that have lost a limb? I'm not trying to concern troll or fight you.

            • JackDecker [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              You might be right, I sure hope it's a bit.

              I don't really get the purpose of the bit though tbh

                • halfdeadreadhead [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  I actually didn't initially base it on that. I just wanted to parody tumblr speak and drama posts on this website, then after the first couple of posts I remembered the cat struggle session and leaned into that.

          • halfdeadreadhead [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            You're assuming animals exhibit pain and pleasure the same way humans do, which reveals a speciesist solipsism on your part. What humans see as a prosthetic may be a torture device to a Galapagos tortoise. The safest option is the sweet comfort of oblivion. I say PUT THEM DOWN!

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      • halfdeadreadhead [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Life's bad enough with all limbs, imagine how bad it would be with minus limbs. I shudder to think about it, just like the felines shudder when I put them down.

        • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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          4 years ago

          it's a fucking cat, man. as long as it get to have food, care, and a hot place to sleep in they are happy. they dont get existential ennui

    • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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      4 years ago

      my cat isnt in pain. she playes, has fun with my other cat, who was also kind of depressed the few days they couldnt see each others, and lives generally as well as she did before, and with less bone cancer. i dont think she would've rather died. granted, i dont think they had much of an opinion on that, but she is loved and cared for. other people in the comments can testify how animals can totally survive loss of a limb without despairing.

    • lib_0000429384 [any]
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      4 years ago

      Interesting perspective. Reminds me how we've normalized forcing grandpa to hang on (only because science makes it possible) when his eyes say "death pls" for years before death.

      What's your moral take on house cats? Like, depriving them of nature for the the entirety of their lives vs. the consequences of unleashing them in neighborhoods and weaking havoc on birds etc?

      • halfdeadreadhead [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        This is a real moral conundrum. Unfortunately, I think the most moral solution is to genocide all cats, house or otherwise. They're just too much of a liability for themselves and others.

  • disco [any]
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    4 years ago

    APAB: All Pets Are Beautiful // All Parents Are Bastards

    • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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      4 years ago

      dude im talking about a thing that happened when i was a kid, no need to be rude

      like if you get in the mindset of having to kill them to end their pain or some vicious, blood-in-the-eyes bullshit like that, you'd be rejoyed to know that there are other better options

        • Katieushka [they/them,she/her]
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          4 years ago

          the point of my post was to say that losing a limb isnt a death sentence for a cat, who can certainly live without much pain. after half a year she wasnt even brushing her shoulder where she used to have a scar.

    • JackDecker [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      OP is clearly talking about their childhood but also let's not shit on people for living at home.