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  • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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    The factors that brought this “drama” are inherent to both communities.

    Strong disagree. I think the structure and format of Discords is a large driver of this sort of thing, because we never encountered anything like it moderating the very large subreddit.

    If this place is going to go anywhere, there needs to be an influx of people from the subreddit who (like me) never went to any of the discords so that they can water down the two feuding communities until they are no long meaningfully distinct.

      • fuckwit [none/use name]
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        Agreed, discord is bad. On that note, whatever grievances people have against discord mods will fester here since the mod team is exactly the same. Just saying.

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          mod team is exactly the same. Just saying.

          No that's a valid point, and I think needs to change, but apparently that's already in the works.

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          But this isn't the case there are at least three mods who are no longer mods due to actions on the discord.

    • cycle [none/use name]
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      The subreddit was moderated in a far different manner than the discord (irrespective of platform limitations), I don't think the comparison is apt.

      This isn't two feuding communities with "discord drama" spilling over into Lemmy. It's one community and legitimate grievances are reflected on both platforms. Simple as that.

      • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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        The subreddit was moderated in a far different manner than the discord

        This is the new subreddit, it needs to be moderated like a subreddit.

        It’s one community

        No it's not. I don't know like 90% of the people here. I'm from the subreddit. Not the discord. So trying to pretend this is an extension of the discord and re-litigating grievances from there is a category error.

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          This is the new subreddit, it needs to be moderated like a subreddit.

          I'm discussing the style and manner of moderation, not anything specific to the platform.

          No it’s not. I don’t know like 90% of the people here. I’m from the subreddit. Not the discord. So trying to pretend this is an extension of the discord and re-litigating grievances from there is a category error.

          Where do you think the discord users came from? We're literally all from the same community. There is no "extension of the discord". Some of us stayed in the discord during the transition, but it is the same community. The grievances that occurred there are relevant to the entire community and it's rather disrespectful to the people that were harmed there to say it has no place here and is just cheap discord drama.

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            I’m discussing the style and manner of moderation, not anything specific to the platform.

            The style and manner of moderation for the subreddit was to warn and then ban attempts to litigate drama from off the subreddit on the subreddit. If we're making this the new subreddit, I don't see why that should be any different here.

            Where do you think the discord users came from?

            I have no idea.

            We’re literally all from the same community.

            We apparently have different definitions of the word community. The Discords fosters a very distinct culture and userbase compared with the subreddit, so I don't consider them unified at all. A person might belong to both communities, but that doesn't mean they are the same community.

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              warn and then ban attempts to litigate drama

              This is part of the conflict and clearly relevant to both platforms.

              We apparently have different definitions of the word community. The Discords fosters a very distinct culture and userbase compared with the subreddit, so I don’t consider them unified at all. A person might belong to both communities, but that doesn’t mean they are the same community.

              You're being pedantic at this point. The small subset of the community that had a long-term interest in the discord platform isn't of relevance here. I'm referring to the general r/CTH community, from which 10k managed to join the server in the days following the subreddit ban. Seeing as this is a significant portion of the subreddit's active userbase, the conflicts that occurred there in the weeks after the ban are completely relevant here.

              • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                This is part of the conflict and clearly relevant to both platforms.

                Nope, wasn't a conflict on the subreddit.

                Seeing as this is a significant portion of the subreddit’s active userbase, the conflicts that occurred there in the weeks after the ban are completely relevant here.

                Only if you want to have a DiscordOnLemmy Community as opposed to the /r/CTH community.

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                  At this point you're being intentionally obtuse. No one is suggesting that this becomes "DiscordOnLemmy", but the events that took place in the few weeks of transition are clearly relevant to the community now.

                  • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                    At this point you’re being intentionally obtuse.

                    This makes me think you don't understand how disagreements work.

                    but the events that took place in the few weeks of transition are clearly relevant to the community now.

                    Only if you disregard one of the few rules that the subreddit religiously enforced.