See? This is the kind of reaction the "debunkers" have. It's this spiteful, sarcastic throwing rotten tomatoes at The Other that turned me off of their worldview.
All I have to say is, a lot of things people such as Lazar have been saying for a long time seem are being repeated by these highly credible government officials. For the past few years they've been leaking info bit by bit to get us psychologically ready for the "we are not alone" moment.
See! See! That's exactly what I'm talking about! It's failure to address the central claim while waving around the discrediting information the government spread to discredit him. You'll notice they always do this: attack the man instead of the claim. They're really good at digging up dirt. If you cheated on a test in sixth grade they'll find out about it and tell the world never to trust a cheater.
Of course there's no evidence, it's been closely guarded for decades. Was he supposed to smuggle out a UFO part in his jacket or something?
That's Suvorov's thesis: that Barbarossa worked so well because the Red Army was deployed for offense, not defense. He is reviled as a conspiracy theorist, just in case you don't know.
I'm bookmarking this comment to come back to when the announcements are made.
I used to be with the "debunkers" until I saw that it's just an emotional release for them to point at The Other and say, "you're WRONG!" I used to love the Amazing Randi when he would appear on Johnny Carson but when I started reading his stuff it all fell apart for me.
See, you're talking about the crazy UFO cult types while this new evidence is about actual materials of craft recovered. It's easy and emotionally fulfilling to debunk the cult types. They're so cringe. They were the best tool the government ever had to keep people from believing the truth.
What, the materials? Well obviously we don't know. But materials that defy the laws of physics as we know them. For example, being able to make sudden high G turns without slowing down or killing the living beings inside by squashing them against the walls.
XCOM had Elerium-115, and it's long been conjectured that element 115, unlike all the other high atomic number elements, is stable. Who knows what alloys can be made with it? It's enough to keep science occupied for as long as they've been preoccupied with computer chips.
Yeah, that's my favorite untold story, how they came just this close to declaring war on the USSR in February 1940. There would have been an expeditionary force and bombing of Soviet oilfields from French Syria. But then the Finns surrendered and we were shunted onto the timeline we're familiar with.
France and UK would have never allied with Germany. Their banks had loans all over the place and you think the Germans were going to pay them back? Heck, the US got involved in the Great War to protect its banks' investments in Entente countries.
All that you say is true. Nonetheless what do you do when an archeological dig unearths these objects made of inexplicable materials that we are not able to replicate with the highest technology we have on Earth?
He said he reported to Congress on the existence of a decades-long “publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages.”
This is what tears it for me. This is exactly what Bob Lazar said: they keep these craft top secret because if they can reverse engineer and build them, they will gain "asymmetric national defense advantages" i.e. unstoppable weapons. You can just fly one into the Kremlin and blow up Putin and nobody can stop you. It's more about materials science than anything else. Not just returning these craft to service - it's about being able to build new ones.
“Individuals on these UAP programs approached me in my official capacity and disclosed their concerns regarding a multitude of wrongdoings, such as illegal contracting against the Federal Acquisition Regulations and other criminality and the suppression of information across a qualified industrial base and academia,” he stated.
Typical deep state behavior. Laws apply to everyone but themselves. Makes the whole thing more credible.
“His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence,”
See?
A lot of people are going to have a really hard time dealing with these new disclosures. It's going to mean UFO people, who are right down there with bicyclers and vegans in the groups that the fancy people really enjoy dumping on, were right and that the fancy people were wrong. They're going to have their demeaning words dug up and thrown in their faces. It's going to be a bitter pill to swallow and it's going to stick in their throats. We should see some entertaining emotional meltdowns in the pages of the New York Times and The Atlantic, though.
The craziest thing I found was that XCOM2: Terror from the Deep was actually based on these stories of UFOs appearing around the poles, flying to apparently random spots in the ocean and then diving underwater to destinations unknown.
Here we go. They've been prepping us for this for a while. This is going to be a wild ride.
I'm looking forward to see what crazy conspiracies were actually true. Again.
Bob Lazar had a lot to say about what they looked like, and I'm curious to see if he gets validated. He didn't seem like the usual UFO nut at all. He said he worked with these craft and a lot of people banged their heads against the problem and came up with nothing.
It makes me angry how the media will refuse to cover topics like this correctly. It's "landlord murders tenants" not "dispute leaves three dead." They do this on purpose.
Once you know that power protects itself like this, this kind of thing stands out like a neon sign.
Remember how Michael Moore went from accusing the deep state of complicity in 9/11 to openly rooting for the deep state to overthrow the President?
Mike Lofgren, a congressional staff member for 28 years, joins Bill Moyers to talk about what he calls Washington's "Deep State," in which elected and unelected figures collude to protect and serve powerful vested interests. "It is how we had deregulation, financialization of the economy, the Wall Street bust, the erosion or our civil liberties and perpetual war," Lofgren tells Moyers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYS647HTgks
They calmly discuss things and he has described our current reality perfectly. Millions have seen evidence like this and come to their own conclusions. Of course WaPo is going to continue to call them "conspiracy theories" - it's the only weapon they've got. What are they going to do, calmly discuss it?
Hong Kong used to be THE place to go to get a tailored suit. Now I don't know, it's been a long time, but the rigamarole used to be: fly in to Hong Kong, get measured, cross the border to China to get your business done, and on the way out pick up your now-finished suits. Excellent quality and nowhere near what you'd pay in New York or Paris.
Wow, cool. Good find! No idea if any of this is real, but it agrees with some of the other things we know, such as being based in the ocean.