Exactly. I asked earnestly because we already know that it wouldn't be okay to use the n-slur in the same context. I want to challenge people to take ableist slurs more seriously.

Ironic.

I didn't say that we had to do away with tone, though? I'm confused.

If you were parodying a racist, would you use the n-slur?

Can we not use r-slur derivatives here please?

I just made a post about some of these issues as well. Your writing about how you use hyper-precise language really resonates with me as well. I find myself rehearsing speech and getting very frustrated when I can't find the exact perfect word to convey my meaning, because I hate being misunderstood and then attacked over it. It's very frustrating when even my most precise words are misconstrued because someone didn't like the "tone" or finds some other such "fault" with my words that wasn't intended.

Bonus thoughts that got lost in the original composition process:

Tone indicators being used by ND people can be a defense mechanism against being misunderstood, because so often people misunderstand our words and then ridicule or attack us for it, so many of us will go to great lengths to avoid being misunderstood again. I hope you can see how calling that cringe is harmful.

I often get accused of trolling when I call out ableism or talk about something else that's very outside of the scope of what the dominant group has had to think about. It's really painful, I feel for you. :(

I don't agree. It's just normalized to the degree that most people don't actively think about the connection anymore, the same way that they don't think about how calling something that's boring "lame" originally came from a term describing a physical impairment.

Just because something is normalized doesn't mean it isn't harmful. Equating different brains with badness upholds ableism the same way that male-as-default in some languages upholds patriarchy.

I just noticed his name is an ableist pun. Yuck.

Nah, I wrote it while having breakfast. My best rants always come to me in the morning when everyone else I know is asleep so there are no distractions.

Our neurotypes synced up, evidently /j

I think it's important to remember that not everybody knows what the hundreds of meme images used here mean.

I'm tired of withdrawing from spaces where I don't feel welcome. There's basically nowhere left. Almost all spaces are hostile to ND people, and the places made for ND people are all extremely liberal to the point where I simply can't relate with anyone. I'm tired of standing outside of the spaces where people meet and socialize and looking through the glass. This is how ND people end up isolated.

I'm glad to see this brought up, because I've already had someone be aggressive to me because of my communication style here and it has turned me off from commenting.

And in general I've seen a lot of casual ableism here. Mostly in the dunk tank. I don't think that calling people "idiots" just because they haven't been educated on a topic is okay. Normalized slurs are still slurs.

Or clown.world

It is definitely used by most people to mean that they've never been with a man. But of course, transphobes don't see trans women as women, so... 🤢

I can never tell if the posts here are making fun of or agreeing with the screenshots they're posting, I always have to wait for comments to roll in with context. :(

Didn't we just finish telling off people on Blahaj zone for making ableist comments like this?

I think you misunderstood me.