I don't know if you can, sadly. I've tried to explain to liberals that conversations like these exist within an implict political context, that criticizing the most successful socialist project as inherently immoral is criticizing socialism in general by proxy. No one outside of the left (and honestly not even everyone within the left) are able to escape the propaganda chain of USSR = communism; USSR = bad; communism = bad. We know that's what's happening here, but I often find trying to point that out is met with this obstinate response of "I'm just talking about the USSR".

I've also tried explaining that even more broadly, this standard never gets applied to the imperial core. We don't discourse about how the United State's treatment of queer people during the AIDS Crisis was a literal genocide and then extrapolate that onto the morality of the US. The issue there, again, is that layers of other excuses and propaganda kick in.

The real answer is that we don't try to convince liberals that imperialism is bad. We convince liberals that their own personal material conditions are bad as a result of the actions of capitalists, slowly get them to realize what regulatory capture is, and then try to deprogram their brainworms about American imperialism. It's frustrating, but it's much harder to propagandize away someone's material suffering than the actions of empire on the periphery. We make liberals leftists, then we educate baby leftists on imperialism and so on

Making it into a pseudointellectual argument (i.e. "you're using a fallacy") also really helps liberals discredit it. Ideologically, American liberalism styles itself as a technocracy; the political class and those who support them are simply more understanding about these issues than the common person. It's why you'll see libs parrot MSNBC talking points about why we can't do this or that radical thing. They see themselves as more qualified to be making decisions than others and are therefore susceptible to arguments which stroke that ego about being one of the smart ones. By making the counter "you're using a logical fallacy" libs can say to themselves "oh its one of the uneducated, since they can't argue properly. I don't need to listen to them or question if this reaction is appropriate because I'm so much smarter and more politically knowledgeable than them"

What are you talking about

Love how reactionary this sounds lol

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Absolutely meant to have white be in that sentence. Great additions too comrade

Which'll happen first: a kid takes a teacher's gun and shoots people with it or a teacher accidentally or otherwise shoots a student?

Place your bets now comrades

Oh god, you could even keep the fact that some people incorrectly assume it's a real text and try to use it as a guidebook when it shouldn't be

Because the entire industry works off truisms. He was in some successful movies, so clearly the people like him because if they hadn't those movies wouldn't have neen successful. So clearly by putting him in this movie we'll be more successful.

I love the ambient queer joy I get from my gender identity

Settlers is amazing, the central thesis is instrumental in explaining the apparent contradictions of the political views of the white working class in the United States. Liberals falsely conclude that the white worker must simply be too dumb to support their corporate technocracy even if their policies are technically better. This misattribution of cause stems from the intrinisic lack of systemic and material analysis in liberalism. The second you consider that the United States enjoys the wealth of a global empire and that on a global scale the white worker in the US is much closer to being bourgeois than proletarian, everything snaps into sharp focus. Suddenly you understand why reactionary policies are popular where tolerance and gestures at welfare programs aren't: because the material conditions of even the most exploited worker in the US is far high than on the periphery of empire. I'm typing this on a machine made in minerals extracted by children, this coffee I'm addicted to was likely farmed by slaves. No wonder we aren't doing a revolution no matter how bad our material conditions get, the baseline of our material reality is too good and is inherently not as horrible as in the countries this empire exploits. So yeah read Settlers

Can confirm

Manufacturing consent really does just hit the thesaurus button huh

Thank god we all got out and voted so the US wouldn't become an even more overt evil fascist empire at home and abroad. I'm sure now that we've saved our democracy it'll be just as easy to convince people to vote more what with how much good that did for everyone

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Unfortunately you can't do metallurgy underwater, so you're kinda limited

Fortunately you can make a super weird, alien economy around plant and animal products. So it honestly sounds like a good time. Plus, industrial civilization and its consequences...

Can we talk about how soldiers being the face of PTSD is super fucking harmful to people who don't get their PTSD from trying to kill people for free college?

Politico gives it a "partially true" on their propaganda Truthometer:tm:

I always found it weird that a former friend who was a huge tech bro was also a very big champion of open source whenever it would come up. Guy once had an argument over coffee with me that corporate private militaries proved that we should turn more things over to corporations and the market, but also he did open source programing a lot without a profit motive

Gonna ditto loving shirtless men on shrooms