Join and make it less lib. It’s that easy.

The only way you’d make it more lib is if you think you’re more lib than DSA 😳 👀

To those of you requesting I move my posts proselytizing people about joining an organization over to /strugglesession I have but one thing to say:

Join an organization

To those who repeat the line “I believe in democratic centralism so I won’t join” I say: so do I. If that’s such a sticking point for you to not join DSA, which organization practicing democratic centralism are you currently a part of?

Do you think Lenin or Mao woke up one day with a perfectly structured organization laying at their feet comprised of only those who held similar beliefs to them? Of course they didn’t. They crafted and cultivated these organizations and revolutionary mindsets for decades before seeing the fruits of their labor. If you aren’t organizing you are not only not a revolutionary, you are a counterrevolutionary. Are you waiting for a perfect movement to be waiting at the foot of your bed one morning instead of putting in the labor to craft one you see as suitably revolutionary? Not to even scold you, but factually your absence from organization based on personal ideology favors only the capitalist and harms only your comrades.

    • notthenameiwant [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I love comparing active socialists doing good work on the ground to the police. Good thing I can make this point online without ever having to make a difference on the ground.

      This take is straight toxic.

    • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      echoing @notthenameiwant - this is so toxic that the feds ought to be paying you to spread it. The DSA has been victorious in minimum wage hikes, rent control measures, and strong environmental legislation, on the level of entire states, in the last 6 months alone. You won't catch me saying they're not at least a little lib, but "a little lib and saving the proletariat from abuse by landlords and employers on a scale of hundreds of thousands of people" is a lot better than whatever you want to call "not lib" that presumably comprises nothing but turning leftist infighting to a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There is no difference between good and bad things.

      ⬇️⬇️⬇️

      • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        untrue!

        good things is when you feel morally superior for your own inaction in light of the flawed actions of others

        bad things is when people could potentially make fun of you for the flawed actions taken by people you choose to associate with

        geez its like you dont even read theory:

        'to indulge in irresponsible action in public instead of passively putting forward invective about the organization. to say something to people to their faces, instead of gossiping behind their backs, or to interrupt at a meeting, not gossip afterwards, which is just so rude. to show regard for the principles of the collective, instead of following ones own heart. this is definitely liberalism' -seatguy moo

        okay? :very-smart:

        • Shitbird [any]
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          4 years ago

          good things is when you feel morally superior for your own inaction in light of the flawed actions of others

          bingo lmao. it's not even worth getting mad about. it's funny seeing losers poke their heads up and own themselves the moment anyone here is like "hey go volunteer somewhere".

          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            uhhh... wha? viola, violin, voltron.. valium? you offering? o oooh, volunteer! :cat-confused: why would i do that?

            edit: more theory for you libs, okay?

            'to let things drift if they do not affect one personally; to say as little as possible while knowing perfectly well what is wrong, to be worldly wise, yet play safe and seek only to avoid blame. this is totes awesome' -seatguy moo

    • Shitbird [any]
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      4 years ago

      yes the democratic socialists of america are the same thing as the police force. this is the most well-adjusted possible opinion and definitely not minimizing the violence of the state.

      :thonk: