Edit: Lmao struggle session

  • Edelgard [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Fact. Guys being upset that many women like astrology is, once again, sexist brainworms.

    It's cringe and comes from the insecure guy headspace of "this is something women like so I must shit on it to prove I am a man"

    Having a strong negative opinion about astrology is like getting pissed that people eat fortune cookies. Most women don't take it that seriously, brad.

    Also, I love her twitter handle

    • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Guys being upset that many women like astrology is, once again, sexist brainworms.

      Very true that a vast majority of the backlash to it is rooted in misogyny.

      Most women don’t take it that seriously, brad.

      I definitely believe most people's interaction with astrology is virtually equivalent to fortune cookies, but anecdotally speaking, the people I've met who are very into astrology have told me they've made fairly important life decisions based on it...which scares the shit out of me.

      I refuse to judge people who find amusement in it, but true belief in it is certainly anti-materialist and a non-negligible number of people elevate it to a position where I can no longer see it as strictly harmless fun.

      • RNAi [he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        The most into-astrology person I met was a 68 yo librarian dude. He was virgo.

      • Edelgard [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Eh if it wasn't astrology it would be something else for that type of person.

        Glad we agree that hating astrology is mostly based in misogyny though, pretty surprised by the knee jerk response on this from other users ngl.

        • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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          Eh if it wasn’t astrology it would be something else for that type of person.

          I largely agree, and I think it often fills the spiritual hole left by being pushed away from organized religion and is frequently a more positive alternative.

          I do worry because to me it seems to be in the same territory as those "ironic" subreddits birthed for the purpose of mocking hatred then turning into fash cesspools within a short timeframe (obviously not trying to equate astrology with hate, just noticing similar patterns of initial irony drawing in true believers who poison the well)

          And definitely noticing more dudebro type reactions here that I thought we'd be a little more mature about.

      • Edelgard [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Bruh

        Astrology is dumb and occasionally even harmful.

        Yeah, it's kinda stupid. That is part of the fun. It's not anymore harmful than like tarot or a fortune cookie.

        The only reason women like it so much is that it has been AGGRESSIVELY marketed to them.

        You can say this for literally anything remotely associated with gender in American society.

        it’s annoying when everyone you try to date is really into and makes life decisions based on this nonsense

        Lmao most women do not make life decisions based on their horrorscope. Bringing it up on a first date is also an easy way to gauge the vibes of a dude. Guess what it says when they care waaay more about horrorscopes then you do?

        • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Bringing it up on a first date is also an easy way to gauge the vibes of a dude.

          Uhh this is a huge red flag to me (and not the kind I like). I wouldn't go off on a rant about how I think it's fake bullshit, but I'd definitely be quietly concerned that pseudoscientific things factor into their decision-making if they seem remotely serious about it.

          Guess what it says when they care waaay more about horrorscopes then you do?

          The person bringing it up almost undoubtedly cares about it more.

          I'd say like 50% of my interactions with astrology is "So and so is a fucking b***h/slob/prude/etc...such a typical Virgo" and I have no idea if they're being ironic, but anyone making character assessments on the basis of birth month is pushing me away whether intended or otherwise.

        • PlantsRstillCool [des/pair]
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          3 years ago

          You can say this for literally anything remotely associated with gender in American society.

          I agree, this doesn't really refute my point

          Lmao most women do not make life decisions based on their horrorscope.

          A lot do

          Bringing it up on a first date is also an easy way to gauge the vibes of a dude. Guess what it says when they care waaay more about horrorscopes then you do?

          Yeah ngl if a dude acts shitty about that then that's a good sign they're not a great guy

          • Edelgard [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            I agree, this doesn’t really refute my point

            So then what is your point? Who cares why it's popular? That's like saying the only reason men like sports is because of advertising. Who cares? It's something to shoot the shit about.

            A lot do

            Most women do not use horroscopes for making life decisions. This is sexist and you should drop this opinion.

            Yeah ngl if a dude acts shitty about that then that’s a good sign they’re not a great guy

            Glad we agree on that.

            • PlantsRstillCool [des/pair]
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              3 years ago

              So then what is your point? Who cares why it’s popular? That’s like saying the only reason men like sports is because of advertising. Who cares? It’s something to shoot the shit about.

              Sports were super popular amount men waaayy before advertising. Horoscopes we're popularized in newspapers, so like literally advertising. They're literally capitalism commondifying something in order to profit off it. But i see your point, does understanding it's origin matter? Idk

              Most women do not use horroscopes for making life decisions. This is sexist and you should drop this opinion.

              I guess this depends what we mean by life decisions but yeah i concede that saying most women use astrology for life decisions is probably a major exaggeration

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Guys being upset that many women like astrology is, once again, sexist brainworms.

      I'm upset by it but I'm more upset by how many dudes are into race science, and for similar reasons

      • Edelgard [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Bruh what the fuck do horroscopes and race science have in common.

          • RNAi [he/him]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            Historically, horoscopes had been a bit less problematic than racism, don't you think?

            • BeamBrain [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah, that's why the race science believers bother me more

          • Edelgard [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            They both divide people into inherent immutable categories by birth based on complete nonsense

            :yikes-1::yikes-2::yikes-2::yikes-3:

          • Brak [they/them, e/em/eir]
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            3 years ago

            This is an offensively bad opinion and disrespects everyone that has been harmed by racism.

            :brak: Do better, ya nerd!

            • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              He literally said racism was worse. I did not find it disrespectful. He was 100% correct on the similarities. The comment should not have been removed.

      • Edelgard [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Seriously. It's another example of toxic masculinity defining its gender as being the opposite of feminity instead of understanding itself.

        "Feelings scary, misogyny easier". 🙄

          • Edelgard [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Basically no one really thinks that. This is exactly what I'm talking about lol

            • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              This is what literally every person who is into astrology says. If you don't think it's real why do you give a shit what anyone thinks?

              I don't even believe in this silly nonsense but you're a misogynist if you think it's silly nonsense.

              • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I don't believe in anything spiritual/paranormal/whatever, but there's an undercurrent of "iamverysmart" in the reaction to this stuff that's often thinly veiled misogyny from the same people who think which way your cock faces in photos determines social confidence.