https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/12hsred/which_countries_would_citizens_of_the_us_uk/

some great stuff here, but this one is my favorite:

As a Canadian, I sympathize with Americans in this thread who may feel resentful. But pro-tip guys — if you want to understand why Germans feel this way, don’t downvote the Germans telling you why they feel this way.

[in reply] They're being downvoted because their reasons are bullshit and ignorant exceptionalist propaganda. Theyre also coming across as ungrateful dependent children, especially given the current circumstances that the US is currently ONCE AGAIN taking responsibility for a war on their continent that they caused. Admittedly, they caused it indirectly this time, through irresponsibly linking their energy economy inextricably to a rogue, imperialist petrostate, rather than through the genocide that's their usual schtick.

:laugh

    • Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's]
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      2 years ago

      NATO was intended as a defensive alliance

      NATO being defensive has never been anything but propaganda. It was explicitly founded to combat socialist influence in Europe. It has always been about securing the interests of imperialist capitalist. What it does today is the same shit it has always done.

      They’ve never forgiven us for “saving” them from Naziism.

      Giving the US credit for saving Europe from naziism is kinda weird. By far the biggest contributor to allied victory in WWII were the Soviets and the Red Army.

    • Farman [any]
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      2 years ago

      Who is going to invade europe if amerca stops "subsidizing" them? Countries like iran spend a smaller percentage of theur economy in their military than your average europen nation. And they are contantly under threat. I would argue it is actually the europeans proping up the american military industry.