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  • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    I hear way more people talking about seeing bad opinions on hexbear than I see myself, are you sorting by modlog or something?

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Adding a "lol" to that doesn't make your own grievance any more subtle. :ok:

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I got no beef with you sir just an observation

            My observations must be grievances.

            Your grievances must be observations. :morshupls:

            • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              You had spite in your tongue when you said “some users here said x”. I made a jape. I meant no spite and I apologize if you read it that way.

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I got no beef with you sir

                :doubt:

                You had spite in your tongue

                :ok: Yes surely I was grinding my teeth and my hair was falling out too. But no beef at all. Just observations from your crystal ball.

                Sarcasm aside, that's concern trolling on your part where you wrote assumptions about me, telling me what you presume my mental state is. :blob-stop:

                I made a jape

                It was just a le funnay joek, and it's also just an observation and what I say must be worse than that. :morshupls:

                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    your posting does get a bit “they’re in my walls at times”

                    Yeah I'm going to stop reading right there and ask you to drop the implied ableism to that particular nugget of concern trolling.

    • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Translating from Ulysses talk: "I've seen people defending X even on Hexbear" usually means "there was a wrecker with a bad take two years ago and now I'm going to make it sound like it's a common thing."

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        In the cause of Kurzgesagt, it was not a wrecker; it was someone with an established post history. I just didn't name names.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Please no, I don’t want my comment to be responsible for starting a struggle sesh or rift

              I hope it doesn't; I'm fine with any struggle session here being restricted to "not a grudge, just an observation :doubt: " grudgeposting because I brought up that sometimes there's bad takes on this site.

              It happens enough that I can just roll with it.

              • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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                1 year ago

                Either way I didn't intend to dunk, I just genuinely don't see the slop people mention here sometimes. I presume that's because our mods are doing an excellent job.

                Sorry that people took my comment and jumped on it to dogpile.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  It definitely wasn't majority opinion but the "actually Kurzgesagt's videos are okay if you pick out X Y and Z," while not as glaringly absurd back when it was said (there were more pop-sciencey videos that were less ideologically terrible than more recent videos), did rub me the wrong way.

                  Sorry that people took my comment and jumped on it to dogpile.

                  It's mostly one "just observations, just japing you bro, but THOU HAST SPITE ON THY TONGUE" :very-intelligent: not-a-grudge grudge holder here. The rest was fine.

                  • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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                    1 year ago

                    It became pretty clear is was a façade once they started touching social issues, and their thesis was "everything is gonna better"

                    I'm just surprised people feel like they can characterize your posting. I don't remember shit specific users say unless it's either exceptionally based or atrociously bad.

                    I'm glad I rotate accounts every few months or so, even if it means I don't build rapport over time.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            At this point, especially with the grudgeposting I already unintentionally invited into this thread, I'd rather not.

            As I said it's not a call out as much as a "Kurtzgesagt (admittedly, back when there were more sciency videos and less directly ideological videos) sometimes receives excuses and justifications and it isn't confined to :reddit-logo: " warning.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Dunk me if you will, but in the case of Kurzgesagt defending, it was an established poster, definitely not a wrecker. I hope they changed their mind eventually.

      • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        I may have been a radlib at the time, but I don't think Kurzgesagt was pumping out propaganda from the outset. It was mostly shit about physics and black holes and cool nerd stuff. Feels like all of that was a Trojan horse for the propaganda in retrospect.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          In the past I think there may have been some plausible defense for Kurzgesagt videos, even if I hated the cute quirky :reddit-logo: targeting presentation from the start and even recommended videos from well meaning progressives rubbed me the wrong way (the one about "keys to power" comes to mind).

          The "99% of humans killed off is a victory for the 1%!" take from Kurzgesagt was so on the nose in favor of :capitalist-laugh: that from that point forward such defenses were inexcusable to me.

          • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            I know the exact CGPGrey video you're talking about too 💀

            “99% of humans killed off is a victory for the 1%!”

            I have not seen this one, and I'm so glad I stopped watching holy shit

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I know the exact CGPGrey video you’re talking about too 💀

              My mistake, that was a CGPGrey video; I didn't like his videos either even if the presentation is less slick and big budget sus to me.

              I have not seen this one, and I’m so glad I stopped watching holy shit

              I believe it was the "what happens if there's a big calamity that threatens life on Earth" video. Yeah its conclusion was that it'd be great for the 1% that remains, because the implication was, presumably, that :porky-happy: can repopulate the magically livable planet after the worst was over.

              • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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                1 year ago

                The art style is cute in a more early 2000s kinda way, but it's absolute lib shit. Same vein as all of those alternate history anti-material garbage channels.

                For bystanders, unless you're into hate watching, don't.

                I believe it was the “what happens if there’s a big calamity that threatens life on Earth” video. Yeah its conclusion was that it’d be great for the 1% that remains

                Was this a recent video? I feel like tons of media has been doing leg work to prep the masses for escalating conflict with China and downplaying the threat of nuclear war.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  1 year ago

                  The art style is cute in a more early 2000s kinda way, but it’s absolute lib shit.

                  It was prejudice on my part for sure, especially when Kurzgesagt's earlier videos were about "I Fucking Love Science" topics which were more grating in presentation than outright offensive to me, but I always hated Kurzgesagt's :corporate-art: delivery style.

                  Was this a recent video? I feel like tons of media has been doing leg work to prep the masses for escalating conflict with China and downplaying the threat of nuclear war.

                  It was some months ago. It was a generic "what if a disaster threatens the entire planet?" video and I forgot its exact name. It was trying to include climate collapse as a bundle with more vague and fantastical disaster scenarios as if to diminish its imminence and relevance compared to the what-ifs.

                  • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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                    1 year ago

                    I liked the art style because it was quirky, and very well made.

                    My lib propaganda sensors were faulty at the time, but it's obvious now why the production quality was so high.

                    Shame that a name drop of climate change is enough to get libs to buy into right-wing narratives.

                    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                      1 year ago

                      I suppose it's a difference of taste; you're not wrong to have liked Kurtzgesagt's presentation style, but I always hated it because to me it felt condescending and twee levels of quirky.