cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1338851

Archived version: https://archive.ph/yDjTx
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230811193345/https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-fire-all-regional-military-recruitment-chiefs-zelenskiy-2023-08-11/

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Then go make your own private instance where you can federate with whoever you want and keep the mean old tankies out

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            What mask? I'm an ML and have never claimed otherwise on this account or its alts on any instance.

            And being an ML isn't against the rules, so don't bog down our dear admins with superfluous reports.

          • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            "Tankies are bad."

            Do you believe that that because you genuinely believe that capitalist nations like the United States and Russia are doing good things for the world, while "tankie" countries like Cuba and China are doing bad things for the world? Or do you believe that because you have been tricked by 100 years of racist propaganda that says socialists like Fidel Castro, Albert Einstein, and Martin Luther King were subhuman scum?

            • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              lmao How many times has that worked on anyone, honestly? Like I'm just gonna wake up one day and say, "yeah, you know what, my entire worldview has been shattered by @KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net whispering sweet commie propaganda in my ear"

              Idk why you are all on stuck on the tankie shit like it matters that much to me. Like I said previously, I don't have a problem with the Christians for being Christian, but just like you tankies, the fandom is weird, intense and circlejerky af

              • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]
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                1 year ago

                IDK man. You're basically saying "Why are you stuck on that environmentalist shit? It doesn't matter to me. Go worry about climate change somewhere else, stop bothering me."

                My brother in christ. Climate change will affect you whether you want it to or not. Capitalism will affect you whether you want it to or not. You can't just be "out" of it. You can't not take a side in whether the earth gets destroyed or not (environmentalism) or whether 90% of the world's population is plunged into neo-feudal slavery. You're either with the slave-owners or against them. You gotta pick a side!

            • Gsus4@feddit.nl
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              1 year ago

              Known capitalist evil practices do not absolve tankies of wanting to impose communism by force.

              You use the term "racist propaganda" interchangeably as anti-socialist propaganda...as if the only victims of capitalism were the victims of racism.

              Who calls MLK and Einstein scum? Maybe Fidel was called that by right-wingers during the Cold War. Why did you mix and match those 3? Why not Emma Goldman or Gorbachev, if you're just naming random socialists (I'm not even sure MLK ever explicitly considered himself a socialist).

              • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]
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                1 year ago

                I'm not even sure MLK ever explicitly considered himself a socialist.

                Well then.

                "I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic." - Martin Luther King Jr.

                "Today, capitalism has out-lived its usefulness." - Martin Luther King Jr.

                "Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country." - Martin Luther King Jr.

                "We must see now that the evils of racism, economic exploitation and militarism are all tied together." - Martin Luther King Jr.

                "The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism." - Martin Luther King Jr.

                "If America does not use her vast resources of wealth to end poverty and make it possible for all of God's children to have the basic necessities of life, she too will go to hell." - Martin Luther King Jr.

                (from https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/01/21/11-most-anti-capitalist-quotes-martin-luther-king-jr)

                It says a lot about the education system wherever you come from that you never learned MLK was a socialist. He HATED capitalism! Hated it! Also, the scientist Albert Einstein was a prominent socialist who wrote a famous article, "Why socialism?" explaining in detail why he was a socialist. Einstein and MLK believed in the same anti-capitalist struggle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Socialism%3F

      • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        We were invited here by the Lemmy.ml mods on behalf of their community. If the majority of users on Lemmy.ml wanted us gone then the Mods wouldn't have federated with us in the first place. Maybe you misread the community you joined 2 months ago? The mods of Lemmy.ml sure as heck didn't misread hexbear before federating with us.

        • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          on behalf of their community

          Oh sure 😂

          The mods of Lemmy.ml sure as heck didn’t misread hexbear before federating with us

          They sure as hell aren't gonna misread the comment sections now

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            What's hilarious is that you think your mods are on your side in this fight. Why did you think they invited us here?

            You've been here for two months. You don't know what the history of the website is. You don't know the character of its administrators. I've got a secret for you: they're leftists like us. In fact the whole lemmyverse was created by Marxist-Lenninists. This must be the very first time you've ventured out of your information bubble. Welcome. We're going to bully the shit out of you until you can behave amicably. Did you think you could just show up to someone else's community and start acting like you owned the place? There will be no eternal september here.

              • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Then fucking check yourself, liberal. When you abuse the word 'genocide' you diminish it. You are doing the work of the nazis in making what they did (and this is what the westerner thinks of when they use the word genocide) seem no worse than the things you apply the label to in your cynicism or ignorance. And this was their literal strategy. Google "the double holocaust myth". When they were still in uniform they applied this strategy to the USSR (which could be one of the examples you're vagueposting at me over). You will find, if you dig into that search, documentation by Jewish hate watch groups to that effect.

                I fucking mind genocide denial as much as you pretend to. So knock it the fuck off.

                And go fuck yourself for calling me that.

                  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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                    1 year ago

                    ???? When did I support Russia?

                    So what, just because I don't side with genocidal Azov means I must side with Russia?!

                    Lmao.

                    • natanael@lemmy.ml
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                      1 year ago

                      You're supporting policies and actions that lead to genocide. Either you're dumb or you're malicious.

                      • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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                        1 year ago

                        I don't support genocidal Azov Nazis, if that's what you mean.

                        How is promoting an end to the war through peace talks genocide again?

                        • natanael@lemmy.ml
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                          1 year ago

                          You're promoting an end to the war that involves allowing Russia to complete its genocide. There's no peace talks to be had, Russia just have to leave.

                          • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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                            1 year ago

                            Wtf are you even talking about? What part of peace don't you understand? Remove your brain worms and stop taking the piss.

          • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Most people on lemmy came here because they didn't like the way reddit was moderated. If you don't like how Lemmy.ml s moderated you can go somewhere else like back to reddit or make your own instance. "Be the change you want to see in the world." This is 100% a "you" problem and it is funny (in a sad sort of way) that you think otherwise.

            • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              Most people on lemmy came here because they didn’t like the way reddit was moderated

              Duh, and somehow irrelevant, but nice try

              I'm not gonna let some scumbag tell me to leave. Federating with you all has made this site worse and we'll see how well this goes. This is not a "me" problem, but a "you bunch of scumbags" problem.

              • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I'm not telling you to leave. I kinda like you. All I have to do is exist and you suffer. I don't really care if you to suffer but it does validate my self worth that I can effect you so easily. Your stubbornness makes me like you more because you refuse to disengage from validating my ego.

                My previous comment was just trying to be fair and explain why leaving Lemmy.ml was the only likely way to end your pain at having to hear opinions you don't agree with but I guess I made it too complex. Enjoying your suffering is only fair if you are doing it of your own free will.

                You also aren't using the "you problem vs me problem" meme correctly. The idea is that a "you problem" is something that only inconveniences you and and thus you are the one who has to fix it. We "bunch of scumbags" are actually quite happy with how things are going and as such wont be trying to change anything. And I as I was trying to explain I doubt anyone else (AKA moderators) is going to come fix things for you.

                I hope you continue to spend lots of time on Lemmy.ml (you know the M L stands for Marx and Lenin right?) We hexagonal ursines will enjoy our time visiting here.

                • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  "Scumbag" = "Shitheads looking someone to pile on and shit on because they said something the horde didn't like"

                  Sorry, I forgot I'm supposed to be the NPC here and lay on the floor soaking punches for your pleasure

                  Fucking scumbag

                  • ThomasMuentzner [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    1 year ago

                    Na , the NPC is then a "NPC" if he can not process new information , thereby he lays on the Floor repeating the same old "Offical Narrative" , like he was Programmed to... therefore NPC

                    here can you process this new information ? This is a Test , Are you somebody that repeats or are you somebody that thinks ... here @Lemminary@lemmy.ml ,.. you can now Test yourself , Bladerunner.. , NPCs can not Process Images , can you ?

                    Show

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              • Victor_Lucas [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Wandering into a communist website and refusing to leave lmao have fun baby

                • Lemminary@lemmy.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  Lmfao I don't think you guys get it. I'm not against communism 😂 This isn't politics. But just like with the Christians, I having trouble with the fucking fandom right now. JFC you all are awful in every way. Funny because I keep getting called a Redditor for some reason and yet you all reply just like them.

              • Flaps [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                When everyone you meet is a scumbag, maybe it's not us, maybe it's you?