It is probably due to a number of people stopping using their alts after some instance hopping.

Also a few people who came to see how it was, and weren't attracted enough to become regular visitors.

Curious to see at which number we'll stabilize.

Next peak will probably happen after either major features release (e.g. exhaustive mod tools allowing reluctant communities to move from Reddit) or the next Reddit fuck up (e.g. removing old.reddit)

Stats on each server: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

  • @imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee
    hexbear
    6
    9 months ago

    Hexbear has become a cesspool. Not exactly a great example to aspire to. I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I'm sure plenty of others do to. Im just disappointed that it seems much more likely that Lemmy fizzles than soars. I can't emphasize enough how big and bad a deal the stripping of third party API access to reddit data is. I wish more people felt more strongly about this beyond posting pictures of John Oliver. Not sure if you are old enough to remember when high quality RSS feeds were a thing, but this direct access to data that users could custom curate was amazing. When you take control of how users consent data, you start to take control of the users. Lemmy has immense potential and at face value people are largely fed up with being manipulated and taken advantage of by internet giants, but most are clearly not fed up enough to leave their comfort zone. Spez and the others are well aware of this and happy to take advantage. It takes a ton of effort to keep something like Lemmy afloat. Just like a new restaurant, if after a few months it's not taking off, it's pretty unlikely to do so with more time. I hope I'm wrong, but the Spez nonsense was a huge gift to growing Lemmy, and in the grand scheme of things the effect was quite small.

    • Venus [she/her]
      hexbear
      67
      9 months ago

      Hexbear has become a cesspool

      Hexbear is an aggressively inclusive space full of thoughtful people who are passionate about making the world a better place and educating their fellow man. If every online space were more like hexbear we'd all be much better off

      I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day. I very much enjoyed that experience and want it back. I'm sure plenty of others do to

      Oh yeah back in the good old days of /r/jailbait and /r/creepshots and /r/sexwithdogs

      • @LoopingRiver@lemm.ee
        hexbear
        5
        9 months ago

        Lol.. so inclusive wanting to bring down America, listing out a bunch of people you’d love to get rid of (anyone you consider bourgeoise), unyielding fanboying of China…

        I think the overall Lemmy experience has gone downhill since hexbear federated. I also think seeing the propaganda posts constantly hitting the All feed will drive people away. Are there even any non-political hexbear communities? All I ever see are anti-is and pro-China posts.

        I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China. Not the most stellar LGBTQIA+ record there.

        • Venus [she/her]
          hexbear
          64
          9 months ago

          Everything is political. We have comms that we don't consider political, but you would still consider them political because you would rather they cater to your politics rather than ours. We have !games@hexbear.net for example, but because it's not a liberal comm you would consider it political.

          I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China

          You're literally professing your support for trans rights and simping for the US in one comment so you must be mega confused

        • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
          hexbear
          60
          9 months ago

          so inclusive wanting to bring down America

          Yes. America is the pre-eminent fascist violence force on Earth and must be brought down for the good of humanity

          • @atomicfox@lemm.ee
            hexbear
            1
            9 months ago

            Not having America around to keep Russia and China in check sounds great for humanity 👍

            • Flaps [he/him]
              hexbear
              50
              edit-2
              9 months ago

              Damn you really kept them in check when you bombed Iraq back to the stone age

              You also really kept China in check when you moved your entire industrial capacity there

            • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
              hexbear
              48
              edit-2
              9 months ago

              "What if they invaded, pillaged, and coup'd the countries WE were going to invade, pillage, and coup! Can you imagine the tragedy?! Better that us, The Good Guys, exploit these countries than The Bad Guys!"

        • @eatmyass
          hexbear
          52
          edit-2
          8 months ago

          deleted by creator

        • Annakah69 [she/her]
          hexbear
          49
          9 months ago

          If you can't wrap your head around being trans and supporting China you need to stop consuming MSM and examine your assumptions.

        • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]
          hexbear
          44
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          I live in the US and it's pretty bad for LGBT people here. I don't feel the need to cheerlead US interventions because they have a coat of rainbow paint.

        • silent_water [she/her]
          hexbear
          24
          9 months ago

          think the overall Lemmy experience has gone downhill since hexbear federated.

          sicko-hexbear

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
          hexbear
          16
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          so inclusive wanting to bring down America

          Paradox of tolerance, babyyy

          I still can’t wrap my head around being so pro-trans rights (a fabulous thing), yet in the same breath simping for China.

          Cuba supports both

    • @eatmyass
      hexbear
      59
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      deleted by creator

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      51
      9 months ago

      It's less of a cesspool than every other lemmy instance I've visited which is filled with Reddit-tier libs

    • Grebgreb [he/him]
      hexbear
      21
      9 months ago

      I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day

      reddit back in the day had a huge jailbait sub

      Hexbear has become a cesspool

      lol

      • WhyIsItReal [he/him]
        hexbear
        42
        9 months ago

        i mean, yeah. if you insult someone, they’ll typically defend themselves

        • @GoodEye8@lemm.ee
          hexbear
          1
          9 months ago

          You think collectively antagonizing, using "libs" in a derogatory form and calling others "imperialist running dogs" constitutes as defense and not toxic behavior?

          • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
            hexbear
            29
            9 months ago

            Calling out imperialist running dogs isn't toxic. Just like being aggressively anti-racist isn't toxic. If a person upholds capitalism, which is by nature exploitive and anti-egalitarian, they are toxic and deserving of rebuke.

            • @GoodEye8@lemm.ee
              hexbear
              1
              9 months ago

              So as long as they don't ideologically agree with you it's acceptable to be toxic towards them, because their "wrong ideology" makes them toxic?

              Are you also aware that most of the proletariats unknowingly uphold capitalism? Considering you say they're toxic are you against the proletariat or are you a fake socialist trying to create a class divide, the ones who agree with you and the ones who don't, within the proletariat?

              • silent_water [she/her]
                hexbear
                18
                9 months ago

                if you asked questions in good faith, you'd know that the community is also aggressively welcoming to such people, even when we disagree. but you don't so you won't.

                • @GoodEye8@lemm.ee
                  hexbear
                  1
                  9 months ago

                  It's bad faith to automatically assume someone being critical is doing it in bad faith.

                  • silent_water [she/her]
                    hexbear
                    17
                    9 months ago

                    being critical without being interested in the response is bad faith.

              • SmokinStalin [comrade/them]
                hexbear
                7
                9 months ago

                Those are good questions that you could get good honest answers to if you wanted. Other hexbearians are much more articulate than me.

                We are aggressively welcoming to anyone who's genuinely just trying to learn. stalin-approval

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
                hexbear
                6
                9 months ago

                So as long as they don't ideologically agree with you it's acceptable to be toxic towards them, because their "wrong ideology" makes them toxic?

                Think about this in the context of, idk, race science or something. Let's say you have someone who is openly a big fan of Charles Murray, owns a copy of The Bellcurve, gets the whole nine yards. Would you deny that such a person is necessarily toxic?

                • @GoodEye8@lemm.ee
                  hexbear
                  1
                  9 months ago

                  Actually, without any other context, I would. I would label them as misguided. Just because they believe in what I believe as the wrong thing doesn't mean they're automatically toxic. If they're unwilling to even consider alternate perspectives or decide to just be antagonistic then they're toxic.

                  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
                    hexbear
                    5
                    9 months ago

                    So if they come in swinging about how they "don't deny" that black people are genetically less intelligent and say that their opposition is either propagandized or propagandists, that would tilt the scales for you?

        • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
          hexbear
          1
          9 months ago

          "insult" sure.

          He effectively called a porcupine spikey.

          What's funny about hexbear is the users reflexively rise to the fight every single time, they can't just scroll past.

          Taiwan #1

          • silent_water [she/her]
            hexbear
            26
            9 months ago

            yes, it's on purpose - we actively discourage lurking and encourage engaging with bad takes. the more you complain about it, the harder we go at it.

            • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
              hexbear
              1
              edit-2
              9 months ago

              "bad take" really depends what side of the echo chamber you are on.

              Y'all respond to criticism like kim jong un is standing right behind you lol

              Also we aren't in hexbear right now

              • silent_water [she/her]
                hexbear
                20
                9 months ago

                obviously whether a take is bad or not depends on your politics. it's so obvious I'm surprised you'd bother pointing it out.

                Y'all respond to criticism like kim jong un is standing right behind you lol

                this isn't criticism. it's just a snide aside.

                Also we aren't in hexbear right now

                again, obviously.

              • Bakzik [he/him, comrade/them]
                hexbear
                19
                9 months ago

                We are in a Federated instance. So we can participate, as long we follow Da rulez.

                But you miss your reddit-logo echochamber, don't you?

                xi-lib-tears

                • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
                  hexbear
                  1
                  9 months ago

                  Right, being in a federated instance isn't lurking. Glad we agree.

                  And no I don't, I've had a few meaningful discussing with some true leftists but most of y'all only have a knee jerk reaction available to criticism. You end up pushing near-allies away for lacking your dogmatic devotion, seemingly to xi? As you have a bunch of photos of him saved?

                  • Bakzik [he/him, comrade/them]
                    hexbear
                    19
                    9 months ago

                    As you have a bunch of photos of him saved?

                    xi xi

                    dogmatic devotion, seemingly to xi?

                    che-smile che-smile

                    You should come to Hexbear. Have a real look around. Not being a fan of NATO bombing (like Yugoslavia) or puting children in cages at concentration camps at the border, doesn't mean someone is a dogmatic follower of China. But they are far better that USA, that's for sure.

                    But come to Hexbear, let's challenge years and years of western indoctrination. And we also have an awesome colletion of emojis! (or, as you call it, "photos").

                    fidel-cool

          • WhyIsItReal [he/him]
            hexbear
            10
            9 months ago

            you’re saying calling something a “cesspool” isn’t insulting?

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
            hexbear
            7
            9 months ago

            "insult" sure.

            He effectively called a porcupine spikey.

            Wonder how the porcupine got its spikes . . . Must be its authoritarian personality!

    • HornyOnMain🏳️‍⚧️@lemmy.ml
      hexbear
      6
      9 months ago

      I actually wish we would become very much like Reddit used to be back in the day.

      A libertarian infested hell site that was most well known for just being 4chan lite and actively harbouring pedo communities?