You're witnessing us after we've gone through countless internal debates and purges, some of which will always be legendary. We had a problem with transphobes at the start, they're all gone. We had a really bizarre fight for about a week over whether or not cats should be allowed outside.
My favorite of ours was the weirdly intense debate over if it's ok to stack rocks next to or inside of a river.
There was also BMF, one of the strangest people to ever live. My personal favorite was @LiberalSocialist@hexbear.net, who was the most contradictory poster we had. You'd think LiberalSocialist was an elaborate Andy Kaufman level bit of someone pretending to be an annoying liberal, but I think it's always been unclear whether it was a gimmick or not.
Ok, but what about this one beach in Bretagne, France, where people have been stacking rocks for years and there are actually some pretty impressive stacks?
(/s, tho there actually is a place like that and I now have conflicted feelings about it)
Eh. This still remains clearly a product of Ameri-centrism in my mind: An America-only issue was being touted as a global problem everyone should be aware of, so everybody else in the world who has never seen or even imagined this weird shit will regard it as so uncommon as to not matter. And no, I don't think one side was being particularly more 'calm and patient' than the other.
I have literally never heard of it happening anywhere else in the world. I never said American things couldn't be talked about, but talking about it like it's a ubiquitous practice, and then getting angry at people who don't understand why it's an issue, is just miscommunication, not a big disagreement. And miscommunications caused by America-centrism is a very tiring affair on the internet. Just prepend the post with "Hey Americans:" and there wouldn't have been any real discussion.
I was literally in that struggle thread (different account) - I wasn't claiming you said certain things, I was commenting on what that thread was. Unless we're talking about entirely different threads about the same thing.
On the other side was a mix of users going either "yeah, but I just feel like it isn't an issue" and users going "fuck you I'm gonna stack rocks anyway" as if rock-stacking was their livelyhood and users trying to rules-lawyer the thing like "what if it isn't a running stream? What if I'm in a desert? What if it's volcanic rocks?" The reaction was wildly outsized, but apparently hexbear has a large rock-stacking userbase
More like a userbase of nerds who never leave their houses since it's impossible to go camping and not be hit with signs like these. That whole stupid struggle session was a bunch of nerds who never went camping and seeing decades-old signs about how you're not supposed to disturb the environment like picking up stream rocks trying to argue that not disturbing the environment like picking up stream rocks is somehow ultraleftism.
I remember reading that thread when it happened, and thinking how ridiculous that all was. Like, it was something I’d never really thought much about but I was just like oh ok, that makes sense, I’ll be sure to remember not to fuck around with rocks. The responses were baffling. Do you have the link so I could revisit it?
if they lived everywhere with humans for at least 2000+ years, from imperial China to imperial Rome and everything in between, i think you can say cats are ok
but ok, if you want to be pedantic, sure, they are not real cats if they don't come from the kat region somewhere in palestine 🙄
Anyone who harbors and abets a KKKat while allowing it outside to engage in what can, by any reasonable standard, only be described as a campaign of stochastic terrorism against the indigenous bird population is a social chauvanist and any org that refuses to purge them is revisionist.
But yeah jokes aside there are reasonable concerns but it got blown out of proportion so now we like to joke about it as an example of splitting over trivial disagreements. Strays have a bigger impact than domestic ones anyway so spaying/neutering is what's really important
Y’all mfs are missing a very important point in the outside cat debate:
If you live up in the woods at the end of a dirt road you need a cat to keep the vermin out and a small mowed perimeter to keep critters from gettin in your crawlspaces.
You're witnessing us after we've gone through countless internal debates and purges, some of which will always be legendary. We had a problem with transphobes at the start, they're all gone. We had a really bizarre fight for about a week over whether or not cats should be allowed outside.
My favorite of ours was the weirdly intense debate over if it's ok to stack rocks next to or inside of a river.
There was also BMF, one of the strangest people to ever live. My personal favorite was @LiberalSocialist@hexbear.net, who was the most contradictory poster we had. You'd think LiberalSocialist was an elaborate Andy Kaufman level bit of someone pretending to be an annoying liberal, but I think it's always been unclear whether it was a gimmick or not.
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Ok, but what about this one beach in Bretagne, France, where people have been stacking rocks for years and there are actually some pretty impressive stacks? (/s, tho there actually is a place like that and I now have conflicted feelings about it)
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Eh. This still remains clearly a product of Ameri-centrism in my mind: An America-only issue was being touted as a global problem everyone should be aware of, so everybody else in the world who has never seen or even imagined this weird shit will regard it as so uncommon as to not matter. And no, I don't think one side was being particularly more 'calm and patient' than the other.
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I have literally never heard of it happening anywhere else in the world. I never said American things couldn't be talked about, but talking about it like it's a ubiquitous practice, and then getting angry at people who don't understand why it's an issue, is just miscommunication, not a big disagreement. And miscommunications caused by America-centrism is a very tiring affair on the internet. Just prepend the post with "Hey Americans:" and there wouldn't have been any real discussion.
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I was literally in that struggle thread (different account) - I wasn't claiming you said certain things, I was commenting on what that thread was. Unless we're talking about entirely different threads about the same thing.
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More like a userbase of nerds who never leave their houses since it's impossible to go camping and not be hit with signs like these. That whole stupid struggle session was a bunch of nerds who never went camping and seeing decades-old signs about how you're not supposed to disturb the environment like picking up stream rocks trying to argue that not disturbing the environment like picking up stream rocks is somehow ultraleftism.
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I remember reading that thread when it happened, and thinking how ridiculous that all was. Like, it was something I’d never really thought much about but I was just like oh ok, that makes sense, I’ll be sure to remember not to fuck around with rocks. The responses were baffling. Do you have the link so I could revisit it?
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Death to them!
Thank you!
We can always bring back "are bidets bourgeois?"
Remember the "are washing machines bourgeois decadence" swiftly followed by the "are washing machines racist" struggle sessions?
I love this site.
the washing machine has changed the world more than the internet
Washing machines aren't, but drying machines are.
You do and you can bet your dirty, disgusting arsehole we're defederating too.
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WASH YOUR DAMN ASS
i missed the beginning of the 'batteries and water and eels' thing and i still don't understand what that was about
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ohhhh lol thank you! now i finally know
It's always a good and fun activity to dispose of car batteries in the ocean.
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ofc cat should be allowed outside what the hell 🤔
There are ecological problems. Killing birds and things. They've caused several species-extinctions in Australia iirc, where they are not native.
ok, they are problem in Australia I give you that. but where they existed and lived with humans since forever?
it's not like we have to adopt stupid Anglo internet paranoias just bcs some some aussie fucked up. fuck anglos anyway
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so besides Africa, Eurasia, and America, yes, they are a problem in antartica and oceania. got it
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if they lived everywhere with humans for at least 2000+ years, from imperial China to imperial Rome and everything in between, i think you can say cats are ok
but ok, if you want to be pedantic, sure, they are not real cats if they don't come from the kat region somewhere in palestine 🙄
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You can love cats being outside or you can love wildlife but you can't love both.
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cat outside like it has always been: voice of reason
Hey why are we in a mass extinction event where'd that come from.
Cats?
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Anyone who harbors and abets a KKKat while allowing it outside to engage in what can, by any reasonable standard, only be described as a campaign of stochastic terrorism against the indigenous bird population is a social chauvanist and any org that refuses to purge them is revisionist.
Read Lenin.
cats are the hungry purrrletariat
I take it back, instead of Lenin, read Settlers: the Mythology of the Feline Proletariat
ahaha reveals the author’s bias against working-class unity and plays into the hands of the ruling class
edit: let's also remember that 👏 all 👏 dogs 👏 are 👏 fascists 👏
Posting the man responsible for the massacre of countless innocent sparrows while defending outdoor cats is telling.
Yet even then, as you can see, all of those cats are clearly indoor cats. Outdoor cats were too extreme even for Mao.
he was feral enough against landlords, and what he really cared about was freedom
But yeah jokes aside there are reasonable concerns but it got blown out of proportion so now we like to joke about it as an example of splitting over trivial disagreements. Strays have a bigger impact than domestic ones anyway so spaying/neutering is what's really important
Kkkat has got me rolling
😠
On a harness or in an enclosed space that theybwon't escape, sure.
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Y’all mfs are missing a very important point in the outside cat debate:
If you live up in the woods at the end of a dirt road you need a cat to keep the vermin out and a small mowed perimeter to keep critters from gettin in your crawlspaces.
Or: it’s okay when I do it.
More like a small meowed perimeter
I hear 30-50 feral hogs will also do.