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    • lesseva96@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      This is in no way equivalent hahaha. What kinda swill do they hand out in the IRA breakrooms these days?

      Russia is invading the heartland of another distinct ethnicity and purging it. Ukraine is not doing that. It is simply clamping down on political liberties to ensure a stable war economy and political situation. This happens in every country that is forced to fight for it's own existence.

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            1 year ago

            Rescuing children from a warzone is genocide? Are you serious, you do realize the majority of those children are native Russian speakers and are reunited with their families when they're located, like you do know those basic facts right, and aren't just talking out your ass?

            • lesseva96@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              Those children should have been led to Ukraine to reunite with their Ukranian relatives since they are citizens of Ukraine. And if you are not talking out of your ass, would you kindly provide proof that they're "reunited with their families when they're located" and not just assigned to whichever family is keen to get govt money for raising kids?

              • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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                1 year ago

                MF the Ukrainian state doesn't give a shit about Russian-speaking children or their relatives, hence the fact millions of Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens fled to Russia, their relatives are in Russia and if they're not then it's the responsibility of the Kiev regime to negotiate in good faith with the Russian authorities to reunite the families, but again the nazis in Kiev don't give a fuck about the children beyond their use as propaganda tools

                You literally don't know basic facts about Ukraine or the conflict, instead of basing your takes on your bullshit intuition maybe go do some basic research

              • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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                1 year ago

                Why do you assume children from ethnically russian regions, who statistially are more likely to speak russian would be better off being sent to Ukraine than Russia?

          • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I'm sorry, what does that have to do with "purging" as it relates to genocide? Surely you understand that relocating orphans - not "purging" them - and then repatriating them when their Ukrainian family can be found does not constitute genocide, right? This is basic, "what do words mean" level shit, so if you're having trouble here then you might need to take a few steps back on making declarative statements about geopolitics.

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        1 year ago

        lmao the Ukrainian state was committing those actions before the invasion you dumb fuck, hence the civil war between the years 2014 and 2022, also trying to erase the identity of half your population is not an example of a wartime measure, it's ethnic cleansing and the Ukrainians are pretty open about it

        Hence why the separatist Russian-speaking regions (especially Crimea) should win the war and prevent the expansion of state backed neo-nazism

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Perhaps the Ukrainians should concentrate the population that shows Russian sympathy into small camps

        You know, to keep a better eye on them and to ensure the security of the Ukrainian identity against the perfidy of the Russian abhumans

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Russia is invading the heartland of another distinct ethnicity and purging it.

        Do you think Russia is running death camps? Where are these purges supposedly taking place?

      • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        the heartland of another distinct ethnicity

        Kievan Rus exists

        Russian and Ukranian are almost the same language, as different as modern English is from Shakespearian English

        Why do white people try to create ethnic differences where none exist? Russians and Ukranians are visually / genetically / culturally pretty much identical. It's like saying North Korea invaded South Korea to purge it of Koreans!

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        So if chinese language is taught in your country and chinese publications are sold, this means your nation and culture has submitted to China?

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            • aport@programming.dev
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              1 year ago

              God no. I think there's some misinterpretation here. I was saying that blocking the media of an invading country does not equate to genocide. That's it.

              • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                That's interesting that you think one of us did the misinterpretation, because that's not what happened - they did not block the import of media produced in Russia. They blocked all Russian language media. There's an important distinction there that I'm certain you will pretend to not understand.

                • aport@programming.dev
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                  1 year ago

                  I'm fine admitting the misinterpretation was mine. In that case I think it's a bit too far, also considering the large number of Russian speakers within Ukraine

                  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    It's not just a bit too far - it fits most definitions for cultural genocide, particularly when you include that Ukraine banned teaching in Russian, all Russian books in schools, etc. Imagine being a Russian speaking Ukrainian child: all of a sudden all of the books you can read are gone, your teachers must speak Ukrainian.

                    So we have Ukraine committing cultural genocide, and still zero evidence that Russia is committing any kind of genocide.

                    • aport@programming.dev
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                      1 year ago

                      Thanks for the document. I'm a bit confused because I can't find where the Commission's opinion agrees with your statement. Can you help me find it?

                      • StalinwasaGryffindor [he/him, comrade/them]
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                        1 year ago

                        Apologies, I’m not great at linking stuff and I’m better at scrolling than posting on mobile.

                        I’d recommend reading section 3, starting on page ten. I also want to say that this doesn’t to me justify the invasion, but that I can see why Russian speakers/people in both Ukraine and Russia felt threatened

                  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    Do you think that it's "too far" or aimed at doing something you are not inclined to admit? It's not like Russia doesn't have people who know Ukrainian and English to publish things in those languages to reach Ukraine for propaganda purposes, but totally unrelated media that just happens to be in Russian (and thereby part of the survival of Russophone culture) is being banned. The goal is not simply fighting Russia, but genuine ethnonationalism.

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