Like ever? I feel like it’s almost guaranteed the more money the worse you become. I know this isn’t very dialectic but it’s true.

      • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        That's because where you live probably has a certain type of wealth breakdown, especially if it's small town America (making assumptions sorry)

        But if the breakdown is like this, there's a thousand people in town. 999 make exactly the median American salary, 54k a year, and 1 guy owns a used car dealership and a liquor store. This guy makes a million a year.

        So now you're 120k a year is great, you're doing well above average and you are in the top 1% of your area but it's more of a reflection of how unbalanced the wealth is. In many parts of the USA you are not buying land with this much.

        • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
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          10 months ago

          That’s because where you live probably has a certain type of wealth breakdown, especially if it’s small town America (making assumptions sorry)

          I live in the most expensive city in my country, its more just the average wage is 20k and the average rent is 1k+ a month, in these circumstances making 120k a year (especially when housing is about avg 80-150k) puts you at a massive advantage; by my metrics they are wealthy as they make 5-6x my salary.

            • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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              10 months ago

              It’s really not though lol 120K on either of the coasts is enough to be comfortable and get by, but it’s nowhere enough to be living like a king.

              • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                Its a hyper annoying conversation to have online because everyone apparently lives off 5 dollars a day somewhere in eastern europe. Or, online spaces skew young so you're talking to an american teenager who has never thought about stuff like childcare, you know?

    • OrionsMask [he/him,any]
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      10 months ago

      I don't know what you're on about. I would live like a king on 120k.

        • OrionsMask [he/him,any]
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          10 months ago

          I'm paying rent now, not in the U.S. but in a major metropolitan city that easily stands with the likes of New York and L.A., and I make a fraction of 120k. Less than half, less than a third. So, yes, I would live like a king. Americans pretending that that isn't a fuckton of money are delusional.

          • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            I mean if you're not American then it's a different amount of money, functionally. If I get injured and spend your salary on a doctor's visit Im not feeling very royal. You don't have to call people delusional, congratulations on not living in hell country I guess. Happy for you, my dude.

            • OrionsMask [he/him,any]
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              10 months ago

              Uhhhh? I don't live in the U.S. but I still live in hell, it's hell nearly everywhere, most of my paycheck still goes to rent. 120k is still 120k, and whether it's dollars, euros, or pounds, it's still a ridiculous amount of money. Delusional is the only appropriate word for someone claiming that isn't wealthy, I genuinely cannot fathom the thought.

              • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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                10 months ago

                Part of the way some end up making that money is through college which can set you up with substantial debt. I know many people who get degrees also make significantly less than that and why I don't think anyone making 120k could really say they're "poor" but they could also be living paycheck to paycheck based on monthly rent, loans, and car/transportation in the wrong city

              • GaveUp [she/her]
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                10 months ago

                lol so many offended people trying to disagree with you here

                even 100k in SF, LA, NYC is a truckload of money

      • Hohsia [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        I’m America, most of that 120K goes towards taxes to the military industrial complex and to subsidize private corporations

        • OrionsMask [he/him,any]
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          10 months ago

          Yes, meanwhile in other countries we pay no taxes. Americans are baffling.

          • Hohsia [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            At least some of your taxes go towards your healthcare or funding education

      • ratboy [they/them]
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        lol same I take home 27k (I live in the US). It's really funny to be how subjective "rich" is to people. To be clear I don't necessarily think that 100k is "rich", but very well to do. I will likely never make that much money in my lifetime. My dream even is to make like 60k.