• Amorphous [any]
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    blackface is mockery of a specific race's features. drawing muhammad is mockery of a specific religion's rules. how is there any similarity?

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      i don't know how many times i have to keep saying this - racial oppression develops culturally, meaning there could be no logic to it but it becomes racist anyway due to the usage by racists for that purpose. for example, a lot of slurs have literally no etymological meaning, such as the "G" word used against Asians. you are trying to make racism seem logical, when it isn't and never has been.

      • GravenImage [none/use name]
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        i don’t know how many times i have to keep saying this

        maybe because it's totally wrong?

        racial oppression develops culturally,

        please read Marx

        there could be no logic to it but it becomes racist anyway due to the usage by racists for that purpose

        *bourgeois racists use this 100% logical ideology for the purpose of maintaining exploitative worker relations.

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        so when and how am i allowed to criticize those who wish to impose their religious rules on me?

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          it's just a word guys stop imposing your rules on me i can say it whenever i want

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              no, but being black could be described as a "din" interestingly enough, which Islam describes itself as, as the English word "religion" and its connotations did not exist in classical Arabic. Would you like to learn things from an Islamic perspective, considering you "have never knowingly interacted with a muslim"?

              • Amorphous [any]
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                ok so how do i state my disinterest in following their religious rules without being racist?

                • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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                  No one asks that you follow ramadan don't work on fridays or quit eating pork. You can even draw mohammed in your own home. But drawing muhammad in our society with it's context has been made into a racist attack on Muslims. I don't know if dogwhistle is the right term, but it is similar, i think.

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        It's baffling how stupid liberals like you don't realize that by being so afraid of even talking about or being associated with some, basically neutral thing, be it a meme, a subculture, scene or social space online that the right has even so much as vaguely tried to associate itself with, they are literally ceding ground and surrendering said thing to the right. The right barely has to do any effort to take over something it seems, just make the vaguest gesture that said thing is their turf and culture war obsessed lefties immediately hand it over to them because they are obsessed with appearing pure and free of anything even vaguely "problematic".

        You are a fucking idiot and in a perfect world you would be born without hands so that no one would ever have to read your shitty posts. Inshallah that happens to you one day

        • GravenImage [none/use name]
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          make the vaguest gesture that said thing is their turf and culture war obsessed lefties immediately hand it over to them because they are obsessed

          This is what happens when you're an idealistic liberal. Marxists know that historical material conditions are the base from which all these superstructure ideologies are formed. If an idea is racist, it's because the material world you live in is racist, like it's the symptom of a deeper disease.