https://lemmy.world/post/6510525

  • the_kid
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    1 year ago

    this is one of the propaganda lines that westerners have been fed about the war. some of the ones I can think of:

    1. this war has been going on forever

    2. this is a religious conflict

    3. it's extremely complicated and ~nuanced~

    for each one of these, the conclusion is "well, we can't really do anything about it, it's unsolvable". in reality, any reading of the history tells you that it hasn't been going on all that long, it has next to nothing to do with religion, and it's not complicated. Israel is clearly in the wrong, and there is a clear way to end the conflict practically overnight.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Yep, blew my mind when I realized the people who were saying "it's a thousand year old religious conflict, an eternal battle between jews and muslims" were 100% full of shit. Israel was invented after WW2 and is a pretty clear cut colony and occupier. It's so simple it's hilarious, Israel is completely illegal and illegitimate

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Israel is in the wrong but I don't think there's a way to end it overnight

      • the_kid
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        1 year ago

        the US is basically the only country that provides diplomatic cover for Israel, every other country in the world is sick of their shit (as witnessed by endless UN resolutions). end all aid to them, end all diplomatic cover, sanction them into oblivion, and I guarantee you the occupation is over within a week.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          US is basically the only country that provides diplomatic cover for Israel, every other country in the world is sick of their shit

          I have bad news to you about the other garden countries.

          • machiabelly [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Obviously US allies will support US foreign policy. If the US stopped caring or being powerful that would change quickly.

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Isolate Israel diplomatically, cut off their funding from Europe/America and watch them slowly dissolve as the military breaks down and most of the population moves back to their original nations of origin.

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          Sorry but I simply cannot be a real Jewish man if I’m forced to worship with poor Jews in the US. I need to feel powerful by kicking out a family of 5 and feeling oppressed when they take shots at me

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      The incredible thing is that one of the first results for the conflict is an article from the liberal media outlet Vox which calls all three of those talking points a myth