• Infamousblt [any]
    hexbear
    100
    8 months ago

    Wait I thought we were gonna push him left what happened

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
        hexbear
        56
        8 months ago

        This is not a generational issue. Israel was an Apartheid state 50 years ago, too.

        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
          hexbear
          27
          8 months ago

          If you look at polling it absolutely is. 27% of young people support Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip compared to over 80% of older people.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
            hexbear
            25
            8 months ago

            Right now, but what about those older people 50 years ago compared to their seniors?

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
            hexbear
            40
            8 months ago

            The wh8tewashed historical impression you are operating off of is incorrect:

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_3379

              • GarbageShoot [he/him]
                hexbear
                24
                8 months ago

                No comment in the substance? Just going to keep on hoping we can age into a just world?

                • @stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml
                  hexbear
                  2
                  8 months ago

                  You’re underselling today’s youth. We’re all dinosaurs and they see the world in a completely different light.

                  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
                    hexbear
                    21
                    8 months ago

                    If you're just axiomatically committed to bullshit, there's nothing I can do about that, but I'm a young person and, uh, no, zoomers aren't special. They've got just the latest iteration on time-honored brainworms, and the disparities between them and their elders can be explained by difference in social position, both the traditional "young people are poorer and less institutionally entrenched" bit plus the more unique problem of median downward mobility, but that pushes radicalization both ways and it doesn't push them evenly in an uneven environment. Going just by the odds, what stands out about Gen Z is that they are the most likely generation in the last several decades to be at the helm of a successful fascist uprising, which is much more likely than them doing socialist revolution (though them just finding some new way to be neo-neoliberals is still more likely than a socialist revolution in the US).

                    I'm on a communist board, it's not like I don't want the Zoomer Vanguard of Marxist revolutionaries to be a real thing -- and I aspire to help instigate it -- but hope and love are not enough to make it so, and we cannot hope to contribute to making the world better without a solid understanding of how the world can [and may] be worse.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        hexbear
        40
        8 months ago

        What do older people know? Start war, at hot chip, and lie? Joke aside I don't understand what you mean?

        • @stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml
          hexbear
          10
          8 months ago

          From recent observation, world governments are following the Israel line—basically universal and unceasing support.

          Reading around places like here or reddit, however, I’ve noticed that people are for the first time putting blame on Israel for this happening and are demanding better treatment for Palestinians.

          I’m not convinced that this would have happened ten years ago, but maybe it would have. It also seems that polls are finding greater support among older populations than among younger ones.

          My point? I suspect that the next generation of politicians will view this as apartheid and not protection from terrorism.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
            hexbear
            37
            8 months ago

            If you look outside of Reddit and the International Community, many countries support Palestine. The imperial core is a minority numerically here.

          • usa_suxxx [they/them]
            hexbear
            29
            8 months ago

            From recent observation, world governments are following the Israel line—basically universal and unceasing support.

            It's pretty much the West v Everyone Else like usual