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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff

The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • Kieselguhr [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    oh for fucks sake, now the western MSM claims that they were wrong to blame Israel for the Hospital bombing:

    The World Paid a Stiff Price for Bad Reporting on Gaza Hospital Explosion

    Within minutes of the explosion at a hospital in Gaza, the court of public opinion had fully adopted the story that the tragedy was Israel's fault.

    • First of all, from hour zero the whole MSM (excluding UK Channel 4 and Al Jazeeera) scrambled together to find evidence against Israeli culpability and to blame Hamas, even though Occam's razor/Bayesian priors whatever makes Israel the most likely culprit, considering they've been bombing Gaza and they never stopped

    • The supposed refutation fell apart in days, but it was perceived to be obvious bullshit by people not biased towards the IOF. Hell, they even made a fake phone call with bad accents.

    • Now US intelligence claims it wasn't Israel, so it wasn't Israel. Yeah, the CIA is famously trustworthy.

    • "When Ukrainians misfire it's Russia's fault"

    • All this is secodary in some sense - Gaza's Health Ministry says at least 5,791 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli bombardments, including 2,360 children.

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      We are gonna see some absolutely insane propaganda from the fall of the United States if this is representative of the hilariously transparent bullshit that Western nations that are collapsing are willing to pump out. All the intelligence agencies and state-commanded journalists freaking the fuck out and publishing the worst, most unbelieveable propaganda in sheer panic but everybody is either sufficiently wedded to the system that they want to believe it, or are afraid of retribution and so pretend to believe it, as their country disintegrates.

      • Kaplya
        ·
        1 year ago

        It took several decades after the Suez Crisis for the British press to come to terms that they were no longer the global superpower. The propaganda will persist and the people will continue to choose to believe in them for at least another generation.

    • ziggurter [he/him, comrade/them]
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      makes Israel the most likely culprit, considering they've been bombing Gaza and they never stopped

      And hospitals. They have a clear historical pattern—both in the last few days (19 hospitals and counting, I believe?) and throughout decades of history—of bombing hospitals, aid vehicles, medics, etc. They often go straight for them, in fact. They even did, or do, the "double tap" thing as policy, where they bomb a place and wait for ambulances and medics to arrive and intentionally bomb those.

    • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
      ·
      1 year ago

      They keep talking about the hospital because it allows them to avoid the obvious conclusion that if that would have been wrong of Israel, it’d also be wrong to blow up everything else.

      Just slinging mud and confusion to cover up for a genocidal campaign.

    • TheModerateTankie [any]
      ·
      1 year ago

      https://nitter.poast.org/AricToler/status/1717015483843576248#m

      Western media is probably being leaned on pretty hard, are firmly on the side of US/Israel, and if they ever did a deep investigation and it didn't point to the failed palestinian rocket fairy tale they might lose access to higher-ups in the US and Israel. US Intel lieing about the whole thing is all they need to justify covering it up.

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        ·
        1 year ago

        It's absolutely astonishing how high the required level of proof is for media to say it was Israel.

        It should have been obvious when Israel gov figures warned they would do it, claimed it, retracted it, claimed they didn't and offered a load of provably fake evidence as 'proof'.

        It should be basically an iron lock with this analysis showing if firing from an Israeli city, controlled by Israel, where there is an Israeli launcher.

        Can anyone think of another story that required a higher burden of proof before the media felt it could even just suggest likely blame? What more possible proof could they require short of being invited by the IDF to the missile launch and watching it in person?