I want to see a post postapocalypse world. Kings hold millennia-old rifles, no longer functional, as a symbol of authority. Scavengers "mine" steel from the bones of long dead cities. Priests view sites like hydroelectric dams as built by gods. Radioactive wastes are feared, said to be demon-cursed. Basically a medieval story but the ancient empire is modern society instead of elves or some shit.
Hoi4 also got a mod for that. From playing as Mormon cranks experiencing their own protestant schism to playing as a Mexican skynet larping as Santa Anna
I dunno. I think its sort of a step in the right direction lore-wise since on a macro level you can actually start rebuilding a society out of the shithole post-apocalyptic America is, not mentioning that since it takes place on the west coast its building off of the writing of two more logically consist world building done by the game devs of fallout 1, 2, and new vegas.
Well for the first part there, I suppose it depends on which devs we're talking about with regards to at least how similar the narratives the old world blues nerds and the dev nerds are riding with each other.
And looking and all the doohickies and tweaks the old world blues nerds made in making divisions like a scant hundred or so men per division slot for a block of infantry being drawn up in context of how large west coast America actually is, adding in the fact that the two largest factions being NCR and Caesar's Legion, have plenty of land with people living on to draw from, I'd reckon its still a bit generous but a fair heaps closer to realistic scale warfare in the fallout universe.
the problem of scale is fundamental, hoi4 can't simulate real events that happened in ww2, the rare infiltrations of regular units beyond fronts...
but down to a certain man-scale "fronts" just don't exist. armies were distinct, small scale entities that manouvered around each other in ways hoi4 can't simulate.
I'd say if you want to experience war about as realistic as it possibly could be, but in a video game, I'd honestly say the only game that comes to mind is "Foxhole".
I want to see a post postapocalypse world. Kings hold millennia-old rifles, no longer functional, as a symbol of authority. Scavengers "mine" steel from the bones of long dead cities. Priests view sites like hydroelectric dams as built by gods. Radioactive wastes are feared, said to be demon-cursed. Basically a medieval story but the ancient empire is modern society instead of elves or some shit.
that crusader kings mod.. after the end i think it's called? is basically this
Hoi4 also got a mod for that. From playing as Mormon cranks experiencing their own protestant schism to playing as a Mexican skynet larping as Santa Anna
Old World Blues? greatest excercise in trying to pin a setting and mechanics on a completely incompatible game
I dunno. I think its sort of a step in the right direction lore-wise since on a macro level you can actually start rebuilding a society out of the shithole post-apocalyptic America is, not mentioning that since it takes place on the west coast its building off of the writing of two more logically consist world building done by the game devs of fallout 1, 2, and new vegas.
i just dont think hoi4 serves the narrative goals the devs have (which are cool) nor does hoi make sense for fallout scale warfare
Well for the first part there, I suppose it depends on which devs we're talking about with regards to at least how similar the narratives the old world blues nerds and the dev nerds are riding with each other.
And looking and all the doohickies and tweaks the old world blues nerds made in making divisions like a scant hundred or so men per division slot for a block of infantry being drawn up in context of how large west coast America actually is, adding in the fact that the two largest factions being NCR and Caesar's Legion, have plenty of land with people living on to draw from, I'd reckon its still a bit generous but a fair heaps closer to realistic scale warfare in the fallout universe.
the problem of scale is fundamental, hoi4 can't simulate real events that happened in ww2, the rare infiltrations of regular units beyond fronts...
but down to a certain man-scale "fronts" just don't exist. armies were distinct, small scale entities that manouvered around each other in ways hoi4 can't simulate.
I'd say if you want to experience war about as realistic as it possibly could be, but in a video game, I'd honestly say the only game that comes to mind is "Foxhole".
ah that one looks crazy detailed doesnt it
Yeah I've played it on and off since it came out and it just keeps getting more intricate.
That's kinda Horizon Zero Dawn isn't it? I didn't get very far in it tho
More or less. There's the old world and the new world and a point of stark disconnection between them.
Was going to say this too. Played through both games and you're pretty much dead on.
Rimworld is a lot like this actually
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