• TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    11 months ago

    You know what's bizarre is that sometimes you see pics of self-described incels, and yeah there's uggos or whatever, but some guys look normal or even attractive. If they didn't have all that built up hatred and resentment, they honestly probably could have developed some rizz - or whatever - and had dates or at least normal interactions with women.

    • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      Yeah definitely. I know plenty of uggos who have great relationships too. It’s totally possible but guess especially can’t let that resentment and anger/hate build up. And have to set realistic expectations. It’s a cruel world out there. Capitalism makes it even worse in every way unfortunately.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        11 months ago

        I would say a lot of people also don’t have any self awareness, in a good way I guess. Like I’ve met people who I wouldn’t consider attractive, and they’re not exactly the most happy or confident people in the world, but they seem to be completely oblivious of their looks and just talk to just about anybody and get laid without really thinking too hard about it. It also applies to average and pretty people, but yeah. Though this usually applies to older people who never really cared about beauty. Being aware of your looks and beauty standards hampers your efforts.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Yeah, there was a very recent shooter (attempted shooter?) in like Arizona or something whose manifesto was textbook incel, even complaining about "Stacies", but the dude was clearly handsome. Like, I'm sure anti-Asian racism made it harder for him to get a date, but he was definitely attractive.

    • sammer510 [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      For what it's worth, mental illness can so screw with your perception of yourself and your understanding of how others perceive you. During my late teens/ earlier 20s I was all but having to fight women off with a stick. One of them I literally had to fight off when she got too handsy. Beautiful girls practically throwing themselves at me, girls that in my eyes were way out of my league in every way. But I have what my last therapist called "avoidant personality disorder" so my brain is literally incapable of believing good things about myself. I will only ever believe that I am ugly no matter what happens unfortunately. I think a lot of incel guys probably experience feelings of low self worth so their handsomeness or lack thereof doesn't change how they perceive themselves like one might expect it.

      • bigboopballs [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        During my late teens/ earlier 20s I was all but having to fight women off with a stick.

        how old are you now / why doesn't that happen anymore?

        • sammer510 [none/use name]
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          11 months ago

          I'm 28 now and work graveyard shift so I don't really spend time in social spaces with single people anymore. I suppose if I were to spruce up and get out there I'd still get some kind of attention but I've had enough bad experiences with women that I'd never want to.

          • bigboopballs [he/him]
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            11 months ago

            but I've had enough bad experiences with women that I'd never want to.

            oh jeez, what happened?