Why am I bothering asking that?

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  • quarrk [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    I don’t think baby leftist is meant to be an insult. Everyone was once a baby leftist, especially the many of us who started out with the default liberal worldview, slid to social democracy, before finally reading Marx or being radicalized by experience.

    Vaushites aren’t baby leftists, they’re still on Tutorial Island confused how to progress into the main game.

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      Yeah, perhaps "baby leftist" was too kind a term.

      Really Vaushites are just straight up Libs, heck even that may be too kind a word.

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Yeah baby leftist isn't derogatory at all - it's someone who is just starting their good faith leftist learning pathway

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        11 months ago

        Many Vaushites are baby leftists. How many of us worshipped the ground Chomsky walked on? Or even thought Obama was a Social Democrat? Or thought Bernie was an actual Socialist rather than materially compromised to the point of inaction? It takes time and disillusionment, and a lot of Vaushites will fall away as they recognise the contradictions in his arguments. Some back to lib or chud-land, but many into leftism proper.

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
          hexagon
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          11 months ago

          True, but Obama and Bernie also aren't cringe ass drama streamer pedophiles. I'm kinda sympathetic to people who fall for actually charismatic hucksters. If you fall for a huckster who's as charismatic as your creepy uncle who not invited to thanksgiving anymore... I'm sorry there's like something deeply wrong with you that I don't think is truly changeable and if you realize the error of you ways perhaps your fate shouldn't be redemption but like a cabin in a very isolated place.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        11 months ago

        I was a lib, too, once. They're not hopeless. Or at least some of them aren't.

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
          hexagon
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          11 months ago

          There's a difference between a bog standard lib and a diehard vaushite

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      Vaushites aren’t baby leftists, they’re still on Tutorial Island confused how to progress into the main game.

      More like griefers that came back to the start land to camp spawn points for new players.

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      11 months ago

      Idk, I can imagine that some Vaushites are baby leftists who will eventually grow past Vaush and go further left. I remember when I first got into leftist ideas, I thought Contrapoints was super radical.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Samsies. I voted for Obummer the first time, I used to help with democrat campaigns, I even supported the NATO invasion of Libya until it became clear that the propagand was not what was happening on the ground. It took a lot of getting proverbially punched in the head by the realities of capitalism and the US to finally break me out of it.