First time was bad enough with its "what if I am the Main Character and if I play the bibeo bame well enough I will get the sex trophy" power fantasy bullshit.
Sure, at the eleventh hour the story supposedly subverts its own premise and suggests that Scott Pilgrim's main problem was himself, but most of the fandom ignored that the way a lot of chuds ignore Patrick Bateman actually being a deeply pathetic unhappy person with murder fantasies that were just that: impotent power fantasies.
Sure, at the eleventh hour the story supposedly subverts its own premise
That was one thing that about an otherwise fun movie (I know, I know, I'll see myself to the gulag) that didn't sit well with me. Scott acknowledges that he's been a self centered git but does nothing to make amends and everyone is just like "well guess that's the most maturity we're legally allowed to expect from a white dude in his 20's" and thus the main conflict is magically fixed.
As it is I couldn't make it through the completely charmless writing and delivery in the first episode of the anime so maybe the movie wouldn't hold up if I were to watch it again.
Yeah we have examples of writers all but straight up saying "here's how to interpret this" to their audience, in the work, and people still interpret it wrong. Basically all art is subject to this. There are neoliberal Disco Elysium fans who Stan the Moralintern.
As The Doobie Brothers said, "what a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason him away".
Original comic was a lot clearer that Scott's actually kinda an asshole and there's much more character growth on his part. Movie ending was too rushed imo
I'm glad this isn't actually happening.
First time was bad enough with its "what if I am the Main Character and if I play the bibeo bame well enough I will get the sex trophy" power fantasy bullshit.
Sure, at the eleventh hour the story supposedly subverts its own premise and suggests that Scott Pilgrim's main problem was himself, but most of the fandom ignored that the way a lot of chuds ignore Patrick Bateman actually being a deeply pathetic unhappy person with murder fantasies that were just that: impotent power fantasies.
That was one thing that about an otherwise fun movie (I know, I know, I'll see myself to the gulag) that didn't sit well with me. Scott acknowledges that he's been a self centered git but does nothing to make amends and everyone is just like "well guess that's the most maturity we're legally allowed to expect from a white dude in his 20's" and thus the main conflict is magically fixed.
As it is I couldn't make it through the completely charmless writing and delivery in the first episode of the anime so maybe the movie wouldn't hold up if I were to watch it again.
Kind of hard to have in a movie a 6 month sojourn to the Canadian wilderness for self reflection.
I don't think judging an artistic work by how hard its fanbase or "fanbase" gets it wrong makes for compelling critique of said artistic work
Yeah we have examples of writers all but straight up saying "here's how to interpret this" to their audience, in the work, and people still interpret it wrong. Basically all art is subject to this. There are neoliberal Disco Elysium fans who Stan the Moralintern.
As The Doobie Brothers said, "what a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason him away".
I still think some stories more successfully convey what their authors were trying to convey.
Original comic was a lot clearer that Scott's actually kinda an asshole and there's much more character growth on his part. Movie ending was too rushed imo
you'll be pleased to know scott apparently
spoiler
dies in episode one of this show