twerking has as many roots in traditional african dance as it does in the club and is something that arose primarily among black women
its overly sexualization is a result of patriarchy and white supremacy twisting a dance that black woman who are comfortable in their bodies are doing to try and play into the racist and sexist stereotypes of the "aggressively sexual" black woman
this is my understanding of the issue from the black feminist point of view that ive read but maybe everyone disagrees with that i dunno
"Someone call the deparment of transportation on this dumptruck👀" Is the caption under that.
You aren't technically wrong. None of this had to be sexual and shouldn't be inherently sexual but you are giving Rockstar way to much of a benefit of doubt.
True but Rockstar put that woman in a bikini in a male gazey way intentionally to draw sex sells eyes so I think that in this case that doesn't apply. (the twerking is a reference to a real life incident, the trailer is full of refrences to "florida man" type incidents).
i dunno i just see a woman in a bikini it really doesnt come across as sexualized at all like im really not seeing it so either im completely wrong on this one or everyone in this sub is objectifying this character and telling on themselves
edit: maybe being a florida man himself who has been to south beach plenty of times its just so tame and normalized to sofla beach culture which has the ocassional women in a micro bikini so small it barely covers the vaginal opening and areolas... ill let yall google pics "south beach micro bikini" if you want to know what i mean
You're objectively wrong. Unless you've never played GTA before, how can you seriously suggest a bikini model in a GTA game is anything but not sexualized? The shots of the women walking around on the beach or raving are not sexual because they're just existing (though maybe that'll change once we hear the dialogue), but the ones in the screenshots are twerking and posing seductively. And if you seriously think twerking is not sexual, especially in the US, then you're probably going to suggest that the strip club in the trailer is not sexual either. And yes, we are objectifying the character because that's literally the point since the beginning of GTA. Just because you don't feel anything when you see the girl doesn't change the nature of the game. I feel nothing when I see Marilyn Monroe, so that means she wasn't sexualized, right?
i didnt say strippers in a strip club arent sexual why would you imply that
im saying a woman in a really normal swim suit just standing there is not sexual shes just there like looking at the sky or whatever
the woman twerking on the car is doing this wild thing but no, i dont think twerking in and of itself is inherently sexual
and no i dont think just because its in a video game its automatically sexual either
sexualization is as much something in the mind of the viewer as the intention of the person who is dressing the way they are or doing the things they are (or the artist of that model) and in this case as most others people here are sexualizing this stuff themselves as it may be done by the artists
I googled them, and they don't seem that much smaller than string bikinis from the 80s and 90s. What am I missing? People are being driven wild with lust by this.....???
im just saying that the bikini in the trailer is very tame, normal and not sexualized
the pose is just her looking at the sky shes not leaning forward and pushing out her chest or squeezing her breasts together or something ridiculous she like just standing there, i dunno i really truly dont see the sexualization here it jsut seems so mundane and normal
look at it this way, what would be a non sexual way for her to stand? like should she slump and look depressed? should she cover her body? i dont think a woman needs to be covered or stand in such a way that she seems to be shy of her body in order to be nonsexual she can like, i dunno, just be and wear what she wants and thats fine but maybe im wrong
its not obtuse i gain this opinion from a discussion ive read by a black feminist about the way society shames black women and part of that discussion used twerking as an example of how our perceptions of black women and them being "aggressively sexual" is fueled by white supremacy and the person was making that case that most dances in the black community are twisted to be perceived as overly sexual in order to objectify and demean black women in the social sphere when at the day they are dancing their dances and being comfortable in their bodies in their own way
so basically, our perceptions about the sexual nature of this stuff is fueled by sexism and racism and is not necessarily an inherent part of the action
but i guess we arent ready for that struggle session on hexbear yet i dunno
The multiplayer definitely is. But these people wouldn't call for an end of COD because kids play it, but because they might become woke from all the female soldiers committing war crimes (they don't have a problem with that last part)
These games are not for children my guy.
also bodies are not inherently sexual like a woman just standing around in a bathing suit is not an inherently sexual thing
twerking is only sexual in the mind of the observer
Ikr, twerking is clearly a dialectic
twerking has as many roots in traditional african dance as it does in the club and is something that arose primarily among black women
its overly sexualization is a result of patriarchy and white supremacy twisting a dance that black woman who are comfortable in their bodies are doing to try and play into the racist and sexist stereotypes of the "aggressively sexual" black woman
this is my understanding of the issue from the black feminist point of view that ive read but maybe everyone disagrees with that i dunno
It's no more sexual than ballet, which is to say quite a bit but there doesn't have to be.
"Someone call the deparment of transportation on this dumptruck👀" Is the caption under that. You aren't technically wrong. None of this had to be sexual and shouldn't be inherently sexual but you are giving Rockstar way to much of a benefit of doubt.
True but Rockstar put that woman in a bikini in a male gazey way intentionally to draw sex sells eyes so I think that in this case that doesn't apply. (the twerking is a reference to a real life incident, the trailer is full of refrences to "florida man" type incidents).
i dunno i just see a woman in a bikini it really doesnt come across as sexualized at all like im really not seeing it so either im completely wrong on this one or everyone in this sub is objectifying this character and telling on themselves
edit: maybe being a florida man himself who has been to south beach plenty of times its just so tame and normalized to sofla beach culture which has the ocassional women in a micro bikini so small it barely covers the vaginal opening and areolas... ill let yall google pics "south beach micro bikini" if you want to know what i mean
You're objectively wrong. Unless you've never played GTA before, how can you seriously suggest a bikini model in a GTA game is anything but not sexualized? The shots of the women walking around on the beach or raving are not sexual because they're just existing (though maybe that'll change once we hear the dialogue), but the ones in the screenshots are twerking and posing seductively. And if you seriously think twerking is not sexual, especially in the US, then you're probably going to suggest that the strip club in the trailer is not sexual either. And yes, we are objectifying the character because that's literally the point since the beginning of GTA. Just because you don't feel anything when you see the girl doesn't change the nature of the game. I feel nothing when I see Marilyn Monroe, so that means she wasn't sexualized, right?
i didnt say strippers in a strip club arent sexual why would you imply that
im saying a woman in a really normal swim suit just standing there is not sexual shes just there like looking at the sky or whatever
the woman twerking on the car is doing this wild thing but no, i dont think twerking in and of itself is inherently sexual
and no i dont think just because its in a video game its automatically sexual either
sexualization is as much something in the mind of the viewer as the intention of the person who is dressing the way they are or doing the things they are (or the artist of that model) and in this case as most others people here are sexualizing this stuff themselves as it may be done by the artists
I googled them, and they don't seem that much smaller than string bikinis from the 80s and 90s. What am I missing? People are being driven wild with lust by this.....???
im just saying that the bikini in the trailer is very tame, normal and not sexualized
the pose is just her looking at the sky shes not leaning forward and pushing out her chest or squeezing her breasts together or something ridiculous she like just standing there, i dunno i really truly dont see the sexualization here it jsut seems so mundane and normal
look at it this way, what would be a non sexual way for her to stand? like should she slump and look depressed? should she cover her body? i dont think a woman needs to be covered or stand in such a way that she seems to be shy of her body in order to be nonsexual she can like, i dunno, just be and wear what she wants and thats fine but maybe im wrong
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Well at least not in the trailer.
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That guy was being weird but I think that was a little harsh.
its not obtuse i gain this opinion from a discussion ive read by a black feminist about the way society shames black women and part of that discussion used twerking as an example of how our perceptions of black women and them being "aggressively sexual" is fueled by white supremacy and the person was making that case that most dances in the black community are twisted to be perceived as overly sexual in order to objectify and demean black women in the social sphere when at the day they are dancing their dances and being comfortable in their bodies in their own way
so basically, our perceptions about the sexual nature of this stuff is fueled by sexism and racism and is not necessarily an inherent part of the action
but i guess we arent ready for that struggle session on hexbear yet i dunno
But it's GTA, so women are inherently sexual in the game.
The multiplayer definitely is. But these people wouldn't call for an end of COD because kids play it, but because they might become woke from all the female soldiers committing war crimes (they don't have a problem with that last part)