This comment is mostly just a rant about Ligotti and has next to nothing to do with True Detective. Also if you try to debate me or disagree with me I will actually try and kill you, I am not here to have my psyche damaged by weird pessimistic debate bros who fetishize my lack of mental health.
I am genuinely confused why people enjoy or even tolerate Ligotti, beyond the venting power of acknowledging a completely hopeless universe. But to outright state this as fact, to make one’s own goals the eradication of all life but then treat their life after reading as if that is not their goal at all, is completely alien to me. It confuses and deeply concerns me that we even entertain these concepts as anything more than, at best, a form of extreme venting, and at worst, a kind of malevolent harm done to those who are already unstable.
What kind of sociopath reads, “LIFE IS MALIGNANTLY USELESS”, and thinks “yes, how inspiring, I will now go spend the rest of my day at work”? Because that is the exact kind of person who is able to read Ligotti’s books and then go on with their life as normal.
It’s fundamentally offensive to me, as someone who has struggled with depression, anxiety, and has experienced the echoing effects of suicide, for someone who has spent pages of text celebrating those conditions as fundamentally more aware or correct, to be lauded with praise and support.
Maybe he’s right and we should not exist. But then you should commit to it and not be a passive-aggressive asshole who turns around and acts like you don’t believe that!
There is a kind of insidious capitalist realism to it all, a belief that our existential suffering is some sort of fundamental if the human psyche and not a product of social forces, that even of Ligotti himself does not think so, lets every social evil committed by mankind off the hook as merely a slightly worse version of a bad situation
This comment is mostly just a rant about Ligotti and has next to nothing to do with True Detective. Also if you try to debate me or disagree with me I will actually try and kill you, I am not here to have my psyche damaged by weird pessimistic debate bros who fetishize my lack of mental health.
I am genuinely confused why people enjoy or even tolerate Ligotti, beyond the venting power of acknowledging a completely hopeless universe. But to outright state this as fact, to make one’s own goals the eradication of all life but then treat their life after reading as if that is not their goal at all, is completely alien to me. It confuses and deeply concerns me that we even entertain these concepts as anything more than, at best, a form of extreme venting, and at worst, a kind of malevolent harm done to those who are already unstable.
What kind of sociopath reads, “LIFE IS MALIGNANTLY USELESS”, and thinks “yes, how inspiring, I will now go spend the rest of my day at work”? Because that is the exact kind of person who is able to read Ligotti’s books and then go on with their life as normal.
It’s fundamentally offensive to me, as someone who has struggled with depression, anxiety, and has experienced the echoing effects of suicide, for someone who has spent pages of text celebrating those conditions as fundamentally more aware or correct, to be lauded with praise and support.
Maybe he’s right and we should not exist. But then you should commit to it and not be a passive-aggressive asshole who turns around and acts like you don’t believe that!
There is a kind of insidious capitalist realism to it all, a belief that our existential suffering is some sort of fundamental if the human psyche and not a product of social forces, that even of Ligotti himself does not think so, lets every social evil committed by mankind off the hook as merely a slightly worse version of a bad situation
I think most people who actually read ligotti are probably reading his fiction. Because it’s generally pretty great cosmic/weird horror and some people are into that. Myself included. I assume you’re talking about his philosophy book that season 1 ripped off. That book is definitely a take. I don’t really remember it well enough to feel strongly about it, but it’s obviously a disturbing thesis. I guess the stories do tend to reflect that some, but they are very much their own thing and well worth reading if you like the genre.
This comment is mostly just a rant about Ligotti and has next to nothing to do with True Detective. Also if you try to debate me or disagree with me I will actually try and kill you, I am not here to have my psyche damaged by weird pessimistic debate bros who fetishize my lack of mental health.
I am genuinely confused why people enjoy or even tolerate Ligotti, beyond the venting power of acknowledging a completely hopeless universe. But to outright state this as fact, to make one’s own goals the eradication of all life but then treat their life after reading as if that is not their goal at all, is completely alien to me. It confuses and deeply concerns me that we even entertain these concepts as anything more than, at best, a form of extreme venting, and at worst, a kind of malevolent harm done to those who are already unstable.
What kind of sociopath reads, “LIFE IS MALIGNANTLY USELESS”, and thinks “yes, how inspiring, I will now go spend the rest of my day at work”? Because that is the exact kind of person who is able to read Ligotti’s books and then go on with their life as normal.
It’s fundamentally offensive to me, as someone who has struggled with depression, anxiety, and has experienced the echoing effects of suicide, for someone who has spent pages of text celebrating those conditions as fundamentally more aware or correct, to be lauded with praise and support.
Maybe he’s right and we should not exist. But then you should commit to it and not be a passive-aggressive asshole who turns around and acts like you don’t believe that!
There is a kind of insidious capitalist realism to it all, a belief that our existential suffering is some sort of fundamental if the human psyche and not a product of social forces, that even of Ligotti himself does not think so, lets every social evil committed by mankind off the hook as merely a slightly worse version of a bad situation
wrong
Debate me.
I think most people who actually read ligotti are probably reading his fiction. Because it’s generally pretty great cosmic/weird horror and some people are into that. Myself included. I assume you’re talking about his philosophy book that season 1 ripped off. That book is definitely a take. I don’t really remember it well enough to feel strongly about it, but it’s obviously a disturbing thesis. I guess the stories do tend to reflect that some, but they are very much their own thing and well worth reading if you like the genre.